do not recommend. the stealth is not good enough for any of the 6 core Ryzen cpus tbh.
no. really nothing on the socket is "worth it" as there's no substantial upgrade. definitely don't buy one at store prices.
this would be the best route tbh. 3600 and a 2080 super.
the 3700X. for starters it's around $100 cheaper and comes with a cooler that can actually cool it (vs none for the 9700k). the performance between them is negligible at 1440p with a 2080ti. with a 2070 super they will perform identical, so why even consider spending more for less overall cpu when your setup isn't the niche it can pull ahead in? then there's the fact it's already EOL in a matter of weeks. you'll be able to upgrade the 3700X either to something with double the cores and higher clocks that's already out or the next refresh that is once again promising huge, double digit ipc gains, without having to chuck your motherboard. here's a 1440p head to head, albeit with a 2080ti. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=584vHGgYtZU
I've never played PUBG, but before I got this 3950X I had a 3600 and I saw similar load temps in synthetics and around 80c in games on the stock cooler.
no, the 3600X isn't worth it. buy the 3600 (or 2600X) and a $30 cooler.
they're the same cpu, therefore the cheaper one is better and that's the way it's always gonna be.
buying into a platform you know is eol in a couple of months is dumb anyway, but it can't be avoided with Intel right now. you don't know what you want other than a pat on the head and reassurance. don't worry, you'll get it soon enough. 😂😭
so price really is an issue?
if price is not an issue why were you even looking at the 9700k it's only a popular recommendation because the 9900k (the only "go to" Intel cpu out) is out of the price range of most gaming system builders.
either pick up a 9900k or return the mobo and wait on the 10900/k.
start with the software you'll be using and research cpu performance in those applications.
this part. neither the 8700k and the 9700k people are suggesting offer a big upgrade, not worth the effort.
why is this topic full of 9700k recs? changing the entire platform to go from a 6c/6t to an 8c/8t makes no sense. wait on the 10 series since all of those have hyperthreading and buy whichever is in your budget or just buy Ryen 3xxx and you won't have to make a topic like this because of this wonderful thing called an upgrade path.
no brainer, use the one with the igpu and sell the cut down one. tbh I do see a point in Intel selling all these variants and will never recommend to someone to buy them. I've been building pcs for 20 years and have had up to 3 of my own builds at a time, I cannot tell you how convenient it is to have an igpu. it's a very understated selling point for Intel vs AMD and an "F" sku removes one of the few value propositions Intel cpus have left. better to have the igpu and not need it than to need it and not have it.
had a HD7950 years ago. big card, big gpu, kind of power hungry and outdated. and I can't speak to the condition of that pre-owned one you're referencing. those cards were used HEAVY for mining. it's definitely not something that makes sense to run in an office machine. the power draw and heat is not worth it and this is not even accounting for things like driver support or whether or not your psu can handle the card or what your case/cooling situation is (because that info wasn't given). you'd be better off buying a current gen low end gpu than a 7950.
there's no difference worth paying for. buy a 3700x and enable PBO, buy lunch for two days.
this is just the same build, one with an obviously better cpu within the same product stack. there's precious little to discuss or debate here. if you can afford the better zen2 cpu just do that, the end.
not worth it. just get a 9900k or dispell the myths your expert friends have been selling you with a better $300 cpu like the Ryzen 3700X.
this drive goes in the m.2 slot but uses sata instead of pci-e: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/G9rmP6/samsung-860-evo-250gb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-mz-n6e250bw
no. there are workarounds, but none are worth it. you're limited to pci-e 2.0 and you should just buy a sata SSD.
the MSI X570 Unify is a good board. no rgb though. on another note, I'd get a different case, my brother just swapped to the Lian Li Lancool 2 from the H510 Elite due to size and temp issues. not a great case if you want a functional, roomy mid tower and your gpu there is huge and hot. it's more of a "show" case that's basically an updated S340. same size, thin and has only a single top fan mount. something like the P400A digital is a better compact case option than the H510 Elite.
you can't satisfy your goal with $300. newer i7/i9 range all cost more than that. then of course they can't go in your motherboard so you'd need a new one. and the 1070ti isn't gonna cut it if you wanna bump graphics settings.
the difference is nill. unnoticeable across the board. .not worth it tbh. you'd get more for that $15 buying a better motherboard, better variant of the gpu you want,ram with better timings or higher speed, a better chassis for the build, a better made psu, etc. that money would go further literally any and everywhere else in a pc than an identical cpu with 100mhz factory oc.
the stock cooler is known to be garbage. always take that into consideration buying a budget intel cpu.
if you're thinking of upgrading from a 2700x the only worthwhile choices are i9 9900k or one of the Ryzeb 9 39xx.
no, the 3950X is an AM4 cpu.
not worth it. I'm in the same boat with a 3600 in my rig. have a 3900x system in the same house and I'm just waiting for the 4000 series.
aside from the 3800X being less expensive somehow, there's never gonna be a good reason to buy it unless you cannot buy (as in sold out, out of stock, discontinued) a 3700X.
the 3950X is gonna be the best of both worlds.
absolutely not. unfortunately it's from an era where 8 cores was niche and a halo product. it's a 6 core that loses in every single benchmark to a $200 cpu that consumes less than half the power. you might as well hang onto it in my opinion. the resale for it is abysmal and not worth it unless you're in a serious pinch for some fast bill money.
absolutely not, no consideration necessary. in a full system literally everything else beside the cpu (in this case) could see actual gains spending $35 more. bigger psu of the same quality, higher tier motherboard (or one with better vrm components/thermals or more features), better aftermarket gpu, faster ram with better timings, case fans, better case, better cpu cooler, etc. the 3800X is flat out a waste of money unless it's the same price as the 3700X or the 3700X is out of stock.
I think the Strix Gaming E should break that tie, but i haven't sen extensive testing on it.
hi. the B450 Tomohawk is perfect for this build and it comes with BIOS flashback feature, so no worries about compatibility. a few other points on this build list:
although the pure wings 2 are fine case fans for open designs, they will do almost nothing in that restrictive front intake. kind of flushing $22 extra imo. I'd go with the P400 digital instead.
you can and should do better than a CX psu if it's gonna be a non office build or something reasonably requiring >450 watts
this list is about $50 cheaper and a few things like power delivery and the case airflow are improved.
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even the Enthoo Pro is a nicer choice. bit shorter, but fits all the hardware with room to spare.
eh... very dated case with alot of small details overlooked by Corsair, even in revisions. I have one sitting behind me with most of a system in it since I've taken the 1080ti back and built a tiny router sized pc in the InWin chopin. it's fine I guess, though I do find it hard to recommend in 2018 with so many more user friendly cases that can do the same tings or more available. nothing about your build suggests the need for such a large tower.
just ditch 200 mm fan. poor static pressure, high power use. a pair of 140's is better in every single way.
very nice to here. it seems the front to back airflow and the top exhaust are much better in this updated evolv. although I'm noticing it comes with higher noise levels. the front panel being so spaced out is a trade off. but in my opinion worthwhile.
nice aesthetic, lot of LED but still looks classy. 85c max and 77c under 3d load for an hour on the gpu isn't too bad considering the vertical mount.
the v1tech psu shroud should work.
hmm... the phanteks pro/luxe are basically it. even those are a bit dated now. any specific reason you want the full tower?
the $99.99 H500 variant should fit your needs perfectly.
no. the location is too tailor made for 120mm width. I don't think a 140mm fan, let alone radiator which will be a bit wider, will even fit flush against the side mounts.
thanks. iirc from an old thread on OCN the two pumps are physically identical with a minor difference on the pcb.
brilliant job. first I've seen in the Evolv X on here. which pump did you use? I wonder if my MCP35x is identical to standard DDC minus the housing. wanna get one of those R220 res.
you're welcome. the airflow is so limited in this case, and in a $2600 build you shouldn't be concerned over getting a cheap case. get something that is best for the actual performance and life of the system. like something with proper ventilation.
don't like it with that gpu. 1080ti can dump alot of heat into a case, and something small and mostly closed off like the 275R wouldn't be my rec. meshify c, maybe the EVGA SC version of the card and for sure a 650 w psu.