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Guide

Entry Level AMD Gaming Build

Description

CPU

Our CPU of choice is the new Ryzen 3 3200G. This CPU is inexpensive but still packs a punch with its 4 cores and 4.0 GHz turbo frequency. It also has an impressive integrated GPU, which will allow you to play lower demand games passably, including Fortnite.

The Ryzen 3 3200G includes a good stock cooler, so a 3rd-party cooler isn't necessary.

If you'd prefer to consider a similar build, but instead using an Intel processor, be sure to check out our Entry Level Intel Gaming Guide.

Motherboard

We're using a parametric filter to constantly select the best-priced motherboard while meeting selected criteria. In this case, we are filtering for mATX B450 chipsets, which will allow us to overclock the CPU without breaking the bank. The compatibility engine will filter out anything not compatible with the build.

You will likely see a compatibility warning on the part list stating:

Warning! Some AMD B450 chipset motherboards may need a BIOS update prior to using Zen CPUs. Upgrading the BIOS may require a different CPU that is supported by older BIOS revisions.

Because it uses an older chipset, this motherboard may require a BIOS update before it will be compatible with the CPU. For more information, please visit AMD's web page about it.

If you do not want to deal with this process, you can choose one of two alternative options:

  1. Pay a little less money for a little less performance by purchasing the Ryzen 3 2200G
    or
  2. Pay more money for similar performance by purchasing an X570 chipset motherboard, which is newer and will always have the updated BIOS

Memory

For this build and most machines outside of the top end we opted to go with 16GB of DDR4 memory. The parametric filter finds the best price on 2x8GB kits of memory that are within AMD’s recommended specifications. We've limited it to DDR4-2800 to DDR4-3200 as Ryzen CPUs scale well with higher frequency memory.

Storage

We're also using a parametric filter to select the best priced SSD available that is at least 240GB. The SSD can be used for your OS and a handful of games. Additionally, we're using a parametric filter to select the best-priced 1TB drive. Everyone's needs are different, so feel free to increase capacities or remove a drive to fit yours.

GPU

We have set a parametric filter for the best-priced Radeon RX 570, which will let you play any popular game available today, including Fortnite, PUBG, and Apex Legends.

Case

The Deepcool Matrexx 30 is an mATX mini tower case with 1x USB 3.2 Gen 1 and 1x USB 2.0 front panel ports. It provides several cable management holes and a tempered glass side panel window, along with a 5.25" bay and a few bays for 3.5" and 2.5" drives.

PSU

For the PSU, we're using a parametric selection of a few well-reviewed semi-modular and modular units, which are all rated for good power efficiency and can provide plenty of power for this build.

Intel Version

Here is the Intel version of our Entry Level Gaming Guide.

Compatibility: Warning! These parts have potential issues or incompatibilities. See details below.

Component Selection Base Promo Shipping Tax Price Where
CPU AMD Ryzen 3 3200G 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor
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Motherboard Gigabyte B450M DS3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard

From parametric filter: Socket / CPU: AM4; Chipset: AMD B450; Memory Slots: 4 - 16

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€69.00
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Memory G.Skill Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory

From parametric filter: Speed: DDR4-2800, DDR4-2933, DDR4-3000, DDR4-3200; Type: 288-pin DIMM; Modules: 2 x 8GB

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€58.00
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€58.00
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Storage Kingston A400 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive

From parametric filter: Capacity: 240 GB - 15360 GB; Type: SSD

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€30.99
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€30.99
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Storage Toshiba P300 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive

From parametric filter: Capacity: 1000 GB - 15360 GB; Type: 7200RPM; Form Factor: 3.5"; Interface: SATA 6 Gb/s

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€38.99
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€38.99
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Video Card ASRock Radeon RX 570 4 GB Phantom Gaming D Video Card

From parametric filter: Chipset: Radeon RX 570

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€125.83
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€156.86
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Case Deepcool MATREXX 30 MicroATX Mini Tower Case
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€33.87
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Power Supply SeaSonic FOCUS Gold 450 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply

From parametric selection: Show

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Base Total: €502.23
Shipping: €81.54
Total: €583.77

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Potential Issues / Incompatibilities

  • Warning!Some AMD B450 chipset motherboards may need a BIOS update prior to using Picasso CPUs. Upgrading the BIOS may require a different CPU that is supported by older BIOS revisions.

Comments

  • 4 months ago
  • 5 points

Some AMD B450 chipset motherboards may need a BIOS update prior to using Zen CPUs. Upgrading the BIOS may require a different CPU that is supported by older BIOS revisions.

  • 2 months ago
  • 2 points

It should work, if it doesn't BIOS updates are pretty simple

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

If I require one could you help me out with the process of updating it, how do I do all of that. And does this come with an os?

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

No, new motherboards don't come with an OS. Probably you won't need to worry about the BIOS update as it'll probably work out of the box. If it doesn't it's pretty easy to update, just look up a guide to updating ASRock motherboard BIOS.

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

If you have a microcenter near you. Most of the b450 boards are out of the box compatible with ryzen 3000 so it wouldn't be an issue.

  • 4 months ago
  • 3 points

Will the Ryzen 3 3300g work on the motherboard?

  • 4 months ago
  • 3 points

There is no Ryzen 3 3300G. There is a Ryzen 3 3200G and a Ryzen 3 3400G. Both will work with the motherboard as outlined in the motherboard section in the write-up.

  • 4 months ago
  • 2 points

Sorry, I meant the 3200g, and thank you

  • 4 months ago
  • 3 points

I'm new to PC building and I would like to know if I need to buy a wireless network adapter, or does the motherboard bring an inbuilt one or something like that.

  • 4 months ago
  • 2 points

The motherboards description specifically states that it does not have wireless networking. Be aware that using a LAN cable provides better speed and security.

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

does that mean that i will have to buy anything extra?

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

You will also have to get a windows 10 license, monitor and a keyboard, a mouse too if you don’t have one

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

If you want wifi then yes. You'll need a wifi PCIe. Relatively cheap like 10-20 dollars

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

if you are okay with ethernet then all motherboards have that but if you are set on wifi, then you will need a wifi adapter in the form of a pcie wifi adapter or usb adapter, both will work

  • 4 months ago
  • 3 points

The Ryzen 5 1600 is currently $105 and won't require a BIOS update, so why not take full advantage of that?

  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

While I agree, the 3200G has the benefit of being on the 12nm Zen+ process, which can give more performance in the esports titles a build like this excels at

  • 3 months ago
  • 2 points

I just googled it, the 1600 wipes the floor with the 3200g

  • 1 month ago
  • 2 points

the ryzen 5 2600 is also a great choice for this build as its so powerful and better than the 1600 at a similar price

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

in what tasks?

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Pretty much everything https://youtu.be/a84SfexIVEw

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

in the majority of titles the 1600 would do much better then the 3200g, unless you have a title that only cares about quad cores and clock speeds. You might get some higher framerates in games like league or CSgo, but you will encounter more stutters on games that demand more from the cpu like Monster hunter world (my friend noticed a big difference going from an i5-2500k to an i7-2600) his stutters and dips in frame pretty much vaished.

  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

So the 1600 is better for people who don’t want to update bios?

  • 4 months ago
  • 2 points

If you wanna use the 1600 go ahead

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  • 4 months ago
  • 2 points

I have Crucial 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-2400 Memory will they work ok with this?

  • 4 months ago
  • 2 points

Yes but it's better to have faster ram speeds

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Ryzen processors run faster with >_3000MHz ram

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

yes, but i would HIGHLY recommend going with 3200MHz ram for the ryzen 3000 processors. Ryzen chips will not perform (i don't want to say they wont work well) they just wont work at their full capabilities with such a slow ram speed.

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

yea but if they already have the ram id run the ram that they have. they are not gonna see a 70 dollar difference on a 500 dollar build. save

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

yeah, i agree. Im just saying that if you can fork it out its probably worth it.

  • 2 months ago
  • 2 points

there are other things i would focus on before going up to 16gb ram. for instance i would also hold the same belief between a ryzen 5 2600 vs a ryzen 3 3200g. 2 more cores and triple the threads is going to make a bigger difference as well. id take a ryzen 5 2600 with ddr4 2400 over a ryzen 3 with ddr4 3200 anyday. Sorry if im sounding callous i really don't mean to be coming off as obtuse and curt. When it comes to builds in this price range its about where are you cutting into the build to make room for this part upgrade?

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

again, i agree. the 2600 is the much better option than the 3200g. the 2600 is 36$ more, i mean that is probably one of the best deals i have even been offered. a 2400MHz kit from corsair is identical price of a 3200MHz so right now there is no reason to go for a low speed of ram. Of course a lot of these probems can be solved by buying used but whatever i guess... I have never built a pc at this price point so chances are you know way more than me, im just using my mid-range to high-range pc knowledge with a different view.

  • 3 months ago
  • -3 points

2666 is the minimum.

  • 4 months ago
  • 2 points

Will it work if i replace the gpu with an rx 580 and the storage with a 2 TB version

  • 4 months ago
  • 2 points

yes

  • 3 months ago
  • 2 points

Is the it better to get a better CPU and use the GPU. Or just ditch the GPU and use the on-board graphics. I'm not sure if the on-board graphics work alongside the GPU.

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Ditch gpu, use on board, save money until you can get a RTX card or a 5700/5700XT, then upgrade CPU in the future.

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

I wanna use the GPU recommended in this build but the GPU defeats the purpose of the APU so is their a CPU that i can get a little more value from?

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Whats your budget for the CPU specifically

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

<150-200 USD

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

consider the R5 2600, or use the intel build with the 9400F

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

The Ryzen 3600 is an amazing processor

  • 1 month ago
  • 2 points

Could this run pc vr games?

  • 1 month ago
  • 2 points

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/oiyoushlaag/saved/NCDRkL Take a look at this build... for £500 its the best stating point for good quality 1080p Gaming... its the minimum you need for an up grade path, but everything you need for instant Gaming!

upgrade parts needed... more storage cpu cooler case fans more ram +8g

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

Good build would definitely recommend over this one.

  • 1 month ago
  • 2 points

Is this a good computer to get my son into building/gaming? He wants to play fortnite on a computer and I need a Christmas idea. I want him to build it so he has to learn something instead of just playing around on a PC. Do you think this would be a good choice should I go more or less $$$? He is 10 turning 11...

Thank you, Mike

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

This would definitely be a good option. Would recommend shelling out the extra money for a Ryzen 5 1600, it will give better performance and will not require a bios update. Make sure you have a mouse and keyboard and at least a 60hz monitor, since he will likely play fortnite try to get a pair of headphones too.

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

I would also recommend going with this build instead of the one above. https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/oiyoushlaag/saved/NCDRkL (not my build btw I found this in the comments.)

  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

Alright, I got to ask. Is OLOy RAM completely sketchy, or does it work just fine?

  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

The timings on the OLOy RAM are pretty mediocre, but they still would hold up; they just wouldn't be as fast as the same type of memory for a higher price.

  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

can it run gta5

  • 4 months ago
  • 3 points

Yes, this combination holds it own at 1080p

  • 4 months ago
  • 2 points

Ryzen 3 2200g using integrated graphics could run GTA V at low settings at 1280x720 at about 60 frames per second, so with the graphics card in the build, yes, it should be able to run GTA V relatively well.

  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

Everybody is taklking about updating the BIOS. How can I do that? Will I it be a problem if I won't update it?

  • 4 months ago
  • 2 points

Updating your BIOS typically involves downloading the newest version of the bios from the motherboard manufacturer's website, placing that file onto a USB drive, and then going into the bios with your drive plugged in and then selecting an option labeled "flash bios" or "update bios" and picking the file from your flashdrive. If you are feeling uneasy about the process, I'd suggest doing a quick google search and seeing what it look s like on youtube. The exact steps may vary a little by your manufacturer, but generally this is a typical high level overview of the process.

  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

thank you!

  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

Will it be able to run VR?

  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

Probably, but it likely wouldn't be a great experience. You would want something equivalent to a GTX 1060 6GB or better for basic VR gaming.

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Dont try it

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

it will do just fine for VR. its going to be title dependant but the rx 570 is a capable card.

  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

Should I buy any fans or is this optional

  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

The case comes with 1 preinstalled fan with room for another. Unless you want your pc to be a oven, I recommend you buy fans.

  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

So if I am going to buy an extra fan I will have to buy a fan splitter?

  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

The B450m ds3h that is currently listed only has 1 system fan header and 1 CPU fan header, so yes, you would need a splitter to power more than 1 case fan. Honestly, I'd just try and get a better motherboard with at least two fan headers for intake and exhaust.

  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

the fan has a 3 pin connector is that an issue?

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  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

Hey i was wondering what monitor you would recommend for this setup?

  • 4 months ago
  • 3 points

a 1080p 60/75hz monitor will work well

  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

does the ryzen 2200g come pre applied with thermal paste

  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

Yes, the cooler will have paste on it

  • 4 months ago
  • 2 points

Yes, but you will need to update bios or use an older CPU like the 1600. You will also lose access to overclocking

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

If they do the 2200g technically it will work with this build, but the a320 chipset is limited to 2nd gen ryzen. look up "a320 ryzen 3rd gen". I don't recommend a320 for this reason.

  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

will I need an older cpu to update the bios .

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

yes, but you can buy a msi mobo and use bios flashback

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Is there other cases that i can use for this build?

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

versa h18, q300l, nr400, all great micro atx cases with good airflow

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Is there a massive difference between the ryzen 3 2200g and the ryzen 3 3200g?

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

nope, just slightly higher base clock speeds and igpu clock speed

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

truthfully no. Its not worth tracking down an extra cpu for a bios flash

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Can you make this with a moniter keyboard and mouse and a little cheaper

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

No

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  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Why is it that list/by_merchant does not have Microcenter???

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Microcenter is not in the interwebs

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

What do you mean?

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

would i have to buy anything extra or can i just buy these and be ready to start my build?

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Would this be able to run subnautica at max settings?

  • 3 months ago
  • 2 points

yes, maybe some chjop chjop

  • 3 months ago
  • 2 points

Ok time for some bljub bljiub

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

How much FPS does it run in fortnite

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

around 75 on a good day

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

that seems REALLY low; are you on high settings? Would something like an R5 2600 improve fps?

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

You will get somewhere around 80-120 fps

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

is that on low settings, 1080p?

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

max settings

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

I play on Xbox we are capped at 60 😢

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

So does this come with an operating system?

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  • 3 months ago
  • 3 points

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In addition, use of Windows must be done with a legitimate product key.

Per Microsoft:

You are authorized to use this software only if you are properly licensed and the software has been properly activated with a genuine product key or by other authorized method.

For more information please see: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/Useterms/Retail/Windows/10/UseTerms_Retail_Windows_10_English.htm

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

Sure buddy... When was the last time you paid full price for Windows?

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

About a month ago. I'm not sure what bearing that has on our rules.

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

If its against their tos, why don't they just sue any website that sells them? That's right, because they just don't care

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

What kinda fps could i expect in fortnite on lowest settings

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  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

1080p

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks for going with 2x8GB instead of 2x4GB in this build.

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Brandon.P256/saved/#view=BG427P Made some modifications, and was hoping to get some suggestions on a monitor, mouse, keyboard and speakers. Also, I was wondering best storage options is the Firecuda good or should I get a 500MB Baracuda SSD I'm trying to go for one drive. Feel free to give me suggestions on anything. By the way this is gonna be my first build and im 15 so please help me out I will appreciate it. Thanks

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Is this build suitable for recording gameplay and editing (elgato for Xbox One)? New to the pc gaming and trying to learn.

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

yes, and you can play games too

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Yes, although the GPU will be unecessary for that, saving you an extra 170 bucks. I would also recomend a 1600 over the 3200 as it has more cores and many more threads, and gives you the option to stream pc games as well

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Would this be suited to video editing and streaming whilst gaming (light games)? Also, would it need the BIOS update like this one?

  • 3 months ago
  • 2 points

No bios update needed, they are both first gen ryzen parts, and yes, putting 4 cores to games and 2 cores to streaming should do you just fine :)

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

thank you :))

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Could this run league of legends no problem?

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

yes

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

you could run league of legends without the rx 570 truthfully. 1080p max settings 0 issues

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Will I be able to use a graphic tablet on Photoshop without lags ?

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Can the RX 570 run call of duty black ops 4

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

yes

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

How well will this run rainbow six siege?

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

It's not getting 240fps max settings but you get a good experience at 1080p

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Hey! I'm interested in video editing and streaming whilst doing some light gaming and I don't have the money for an expensive PC. Do you think this is a good option? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Do i need freesync?

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

no, but it IS nice

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

I was thinking of this moniter BENQ ZOWIE XL2411P but it doesn't have freesync. Is it worth it?

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

you can find a freesync 144hz display for less

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Can you link me some please.

  • 3 months ago
  • 3 points
  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

This is my first build. Is the BIOS update hard to do. Right now im thinking of going with the x570 but its expensive. Can someone link my a video of BIOS update.

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Hi! Can I play Apex Legends in this build? Also what is the good settings for me to play it? maybe 1080?

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

I like this one better:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9H2cLJ

Take out the monitor and you're sitting at the same price range. You can even change the processor if you like too. You're getting a little more power with 550W PS, a 512GB SSD and a 580 8GB which is much better.

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

The SeaSonic EVO series is a bit too old in my opinion, and not well regulated enough

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

The PSU? What do you mean by not well regulated enough?

  • 3 months ago
  • 2 points

The SeaSonic EVO series was made over 10 years ago and is group regulated, you can get much more efficient PSUs

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Can you suggest something better with approximately the same power rating and price? I'd really appreciate it!

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Can I upgrade to a RTX 2060 in the future with this build?

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

yes you can upgrade any part in the future :)

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

Will this be able to run Rainbow six siege?

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

yes

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

So I'm trying to find out if this build or the Entry Level Intel Gaming Build would be better for my needs. I'm wanting a build that would run Warframe and League of Legends without a hitch. Especially with Warframe with their open worlds and heavily populated servers. I'm wanting to be able to go in there with no problem meaning no lag or anything. So everything is running smoothly. Would this AMD Entry Level build be better for it? Or the Intel Entry Level build?

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

Strictly gaming - Intel is the way to go.

If you usually have your browser open and other applications during gaming, probably the AMD will be better as it has more threads.

If you take performance on strictly gaming - then Intel is better.

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  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

Why aren’t the staff changing the case?

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

The case is suitable for the build

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

¿Greenlight?, ¿what do you guys think about the case and CPU cooler? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tV4qsk

  • 2 months ago
  • 2 points

love the cpu cooler. 20 dollars for that much cooling is great. case is a good option too for 53 dollars. I would personally purchase a 3 pack of 120mm fans on amazon for 10 dollars (uphere 3-Pack Long Life Computer Case Fan 120mm Cooling Case Fan for Computer Cases Cooling,12BK3-3) as well to put in the front just for that additional cooling. Those would connect directly to the power supply (molex) That case supports a lot of hardware and its thermals are going to be good. You don't need those aditional fans, but its what i would do.

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

I’m so hysterical and super anxious about that CPU cooler don’t fit with the ram or something I tried to change it to a smaller one(cooler master T2), I'm gonna sound dumb but but i don’t trust a stock cooler and if I prefer OC the cpu I want keep it cool, but I believe in you cuz you have more experience more than I do and gonna go back for the gammaxx 400

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

ive owned a few. I used to flip computers and they were one of my go to cpu coolers. cheap quiet and ran cool. i fit them suckers in a rosewill fmb-01 and a DIYPC MA01 which were much smaller cases. you wont regret that cpu cooler for 20 bucks

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

I'll admit i usually like the builds that you reccomend, but this one bothers me a lot. I would NEVER reccomend a first time builder to purchase parts that are going to require a bios update especially when the filter you put on for the motherboards doesn't limit itself to the boards that have the flashing utility without cpu. even then if you did it would just be better for someone to get a ryzen 5 1600 for 10 dollars more. The internal gpu isn't being used and is going with a sensible rx 570 and for 10 dollars more you are getting a cpu that has much better multi thread performance and you don't have to worry about bios flashing. The rest of it is fine (though i have minor nitpicks, like the 450w modular psu for 58 bucks when you can get an evga 600b non modular for 55 and can then go with any videocard you want in the future. Modern cases have great cable management ) But aren't these builds supposed to be beginner friendly? Especially the budget ones? Any build that has a red flag should not be a build guide, it should be a personal build that they adapted.

  • 1 month ago
  • 2 points

I agree, to a first time builder this task most likely seems very daunting.

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

The main thing I worry about Is some building this budget build using all the pennies they have to find out that it won't work since they have no way of flashing the bios. The whole point of pcpartpicker is so that people can buy parts knowing they can just buy the parts and put them together and work. If they have no way to flash the bios they are screwed until they can save up to buy a cpu that they can flash it with or find someone who can for them if they can

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

You should change the power supply to the EVGA 2019 700w, it’ll say you about 10-25 bucks, and if you go with an ryzen 3 1200, you can bump up your GPU to a rx 580

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

Why pair the RX 570 with a 3200g when the main selling point of the 3200g is it's iGPU. Doesn't make much sense to me when you can get a used ryzen 5 1600 for around $80 or if your lucky enough to have a micro center near you, you can get it brand new for $80.

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

Used products are outside the scope of this guide. This guide is primarily intended for new products only.

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

Oh that makes more sense.

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

Okay a dozen 5 1600 new is 106 dollars with tripple the threads and will work with any motherboard. The panoramic filter you have doesn't just have motherboards that can flash their bios without a cpu or are 3rd gen ready. That means someone can follow this build, and get stuck with no option other then have to purchase another CPU just to flash it

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

You keep saying that someone will have to purchase another CPU to flash the BIOS. That's just not true. As linked in the description, there are several free ways to handle the issue if it comes up.

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

in that link it refers to amd's website. this is their solution

If the motherboard was purchased through a computer parts retailer, check with the retailer to see if they can facilitate the BIOS update at their location. There may be a charge for this, or it may be offered at no cost. IF there is a local retailer and there MIGHT be a charge. yea some people if they bought their chip locally might be able to have them update their bios and there might not be a charge. I suppose someone might be able to not get charged, except for the most common places to purchase pc parts are newegg and amazon. So unless you are in cali you probably are not near a newegg store.

If you have access to a processor supported on the current installed BIOS, use it to perform the BIOS update, then swap out the processors when the update process is complete.

Just like i said you would have to buy another cpu.

and then there is the short term processor kit, first you need to get rejected from the motherboard manufacturer for an RMA, then you get to submit a form to amd they will review the case that requires proof of a ryzen 3 chip purchase and a rejection for an RMA on a x470 or b450 motherboard. then they will mail out a 200ge for you to flash the bios then you have to mail the chip back (they do provide the shipping) so yea i guess that is the "for free" just nothing that is practical. There are several potential "free" avenues if you already have the parts laying around or bought from a local store, but i would never wish this on anyone trying to build a computer. Imagine if a major manufacturer does RMA your board? That takes FOREVER to complete (beleive me ive done it for parts) i build computers and i have gotten defective parts, they always have a turn around of 3 weeks minimum) If you were building your first computer, would you seriously want to try to find a local retailer to flash the bios for you, then if you cant fill out an RMA to your manufacturer to get rejected so you can get a cpu from AMD to flash your bios for you to have to mail that chip back so finally you can build your computer? Build guides are made for people who want to build a computer without all the faffing about, this is nothing but faff.

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

There's a reason I mentioned alternatives such as changing the CPU or motherboard. You're right that the Ryzen 5 1600 is another alternative. That starts to stretch outside the scope of the guide though, I feel.

  • 4 months ago
  • 0 points

Thank you 8gigs is not optimal anymore

  • 3 months ago
  • 0 points

Most games will still run fine with 8 gigs, not sure what you're talking about.

  • 2 months ago
  • 0 points

ik but like 16 gigs is so cheap xd

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

sure 16gb isnt expensive anymore, but when it comes to budget builds what gets you further? going from 8gb to 16gb of ram or a stronger gpu? If that 40 dollars was the difference between a rx 560 and an rx 570 id take the 8gb of ram and take the 570.

  • 2 months ago
  • 0 points

Yeah, that much is true

  • 3 months ago
  • 0 points

Can this run black ops 4 at 4K max settings at 240 FPS ?

  • 3 months ago
  • 3 points

are you a troll

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

For that probably SLI 2080 Tis and an Intel Core i9900K or Ryzen 9 3900X combo would be needed.

  • 3 months ago
  • 2 points

not even close

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

probably HD at 120...

  • 3 months ago
  • -2 points

How much FPS??

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

Depends on the game as usual.

  • 4 months ago
  • -3 points

Needs a better GPU

  • 4 months ago
  • 2 points

You can find a better GPU by looking used on ebay or increasing your budget

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

570 is fine. a 570 can play any game on the market at decent settings.

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

Check out the build I made. Tell me if it’s good or not

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

If we are going with just brand new parts its not bad but there are some things i would cange. the main things i would change would be swapping that gtx 1060 3gb for an rx 570 its 40 dollars cheaper and about the same performance. You then can take that money and purchase a 1tb hard drive for additional storage. The rest is fine. Case id probably switch to the Rosewill FBM-X2 and purchase a couple of 120mm fans to populate the front. The cooling would be better and you would save 10 dollars. there is a 3 pack on amazon for 10 dollars. one could be used as an exhaust and the temps would be pretty good.

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

Upgrade your cpu and the rest of the money buy a used GPU

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  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

stock is good enough

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

Evo 212 is the best budget cooler you can get if you don't want to use the stock one or you want to overclock a bit.

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