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Budget Ryzen APU build for first-time builder (2200G/2400G)

HopefulToad

7 months ago

A while back (approximately eight months ago) I posted a topic similar to this one about building a PC based on the Ryzen 2200G. I ended up not actually building it, but now I'm once again looking to build a PC based on either the Ryzen 2200G or the Ryzen 2400G. Good news for me, RAM seems to have dropped considerably in price in the interval between my last topic and this one.

I intend to use the built PC for some gaming, some programming, and other general uses. I'm perfectly fine with gaming at low settings and resolutions (most games I play on PC are not very demanding, anyway), so I'm not going to buy a discrete graphics card with greater capabilities than what the Ryzen iGPUs can offer.

My question is, would I be better served with a 2400G-based build with lesser RAM, like this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 5 2400G 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor $149.98 @ Walmart
Motherboard ASRock - B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard $69.99 @ Newegg
Memory G.Skill - NT Series 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-2400 Memory $43.98 @ Newegg
Storage Crucial - MX500 250 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive Purchased For $0.00
Case Rosewill - FBM-06 MicroATX Mini Tower Case $24.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply Corsair - VS 450 W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply $43.96 @ Newegg
Operating System Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit $109.99 @ Newegg
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $442.89
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-17 00:42 EDT-0400

...or a 2200G-based build with better RAM, like this?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5 GHz Quad-Core Processor $94.99 @ Newegg
Motherboard ASRock - B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard $69.99 @ Newegg
Memory Crucial - Ballistix Sport AT 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $78.69 @ Newegg
Storage Crucial - MX500 250 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive Purchased For $0.00
Case Rosewill - FBM-06 MicroATX Mini Tower Case $24.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply Corsair - VS 450 W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply $43.96 @ Newegg
Operating System Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit $109.99 @ Newegg
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $422.61
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-17 00:43 EDT-0400

And are these parts, in either build, all I would need to build a fully-functional PC?

Either build will be a significant improvement over my current laptop (i5-4200M, Intel HD 4600 integrated graphics, 2x4GB 1600 MHz RAM, but same SSD). I just want to know which build is the better option for the money.

Thanks!

Comments

  • 7 months ago
  • 1 point

Why not do a ‘hybrid’ of the two lists?

The 2400G’s iGPU is about as strong as an entry level GPU, of which the [same can’t be said for the Vega 8(https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gNSYR183MNM). The extra threads might also come in handy later down the track (if you do get a GPU).

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 5 2400G 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor $149.39 @ OutletPC
Motherboard ASRock - B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard $69.99 @ Amazon
Memory Team - Vulcan 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $50.88 @ OutletPC
Storage Crucial - MX500 250 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive Purchased For $0.00
Case Rosewill - FBM-06 MicroATX Mini Tower Case $24.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply Corsair - CX (2017) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply $45.99 @ Amazon
Operating System Microsoft - Windows 10 Home Full - USB 32/64-bit $110.59 @ Amazon
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $451.83
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-17 06:21 EDT-0400

Doubled the RAM (for an extra $26)

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 5 2400G 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor $149.39 @ OutletPC
Motherboard ASRock - B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard $69.99 @ Amazon
Memory *OLOy - 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $76.99 @ Newegg
Storage Crucial - MX500 250 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive Purchased For $0.00
Case Rosewill - FBM-06 MicroATX Mini Tower Case $24.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply Corsair - CX (2017) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply $45.99 @ Amazon
Operating System Microsoft - Windows 10 Home Full - USB 32/64-bit $110.59 @ Amazon
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $477.94
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-17 06:25 EDT-0400
  • 7 months ago
  • 1 point

I like the first list you posted. It's right around the maximum I'm willing to spend. I probably don't need 16GB RAM, but would the extra RAM allow for any sort of performance increase to the iGPU, or is it just the dual-channel RAM that's important, and not necessarily the amount?

Also, is OutletPC a good place to shop?

  • 7 months ago
  • 1 point
  • The extra RAM probably won't hurt anything, but the iGPU can be configured to use up to 2GB, so 16GB might help in the graphics department. I'm pretty sure you could get away with 8GB, though

  • I've heard nothing against OutletPC, so you should be fine (all of the retailers on PCPP are good and reputable)

  • 7 months ago
  • 1 point

OK, good to know. I kind of want to order all the parts from one retailer (Newegg), just for consistency in shipping (i.e. so I don't have a situation where I've got every single part except the PSU from one retailer, and then have to wait an extra week for the PSU to ship from another retailer). However, that's probably not very realistic, especially when I'm hoping for the best price on each part.

  • 7 months ago
  • 1 point

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 3 1200 3.1 GHz Quad-Core Processor $69.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard ASRock - B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard $59.99 @ Newegg
Memory Team - Vulcan 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $50.88 @ OutletPC
Storage Crucial - MX500 250 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive Purchased For $0.00
Video Card ASRock - Radeon RX 570 4 GB Phantom Gaming D Video Card $129.99 @ Newegg
Case Rosewill - FBM-06 MicroATX Mini Tower Case $24.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply Corsair - CXM (2015) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply $49.90 @ OutletPC
Operating System Microsoft - Windows 10 Home Full - USB 32/64-bit $110.49 @ OutletPC
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total (before mail-in rebates) $546.23
Mail-in rebates -$50.00
Total $496.23
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-17 06:53 EDT-0400

At this budget, why not go for a discrete GPU which is considerably faster than the iGPU's in the Ryzen APU's

  • 7 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks for the suggestion! That looks like a nice build, but I'll probably stick with my original plan for a couple of reasons.

  1. The upper limit of what I'm comfortable spending is around $450—the closer to $400, the better.

  2. Both Ryzen APUs, if I'm not mistaken, are more capable in the CPU department than the Ryzen 3 1200. That is attractive to me, since I'm planning on doing some programming with the build. Also, the gaming I will do will mostly be lighter games, like indie games and older games. And if I do happen to pick up a recent, heavier title, I wouldn't really mind having to run it at 720p with medium or low settings.

  • 7 months ago
  • 2 points

Then, a 2400G would be a decent pick. (it's got hyperthreading, and the capable iGPU should be more than enough for 720p)

  • 7 months ago
  • 1 point

I've settled on this build. The new SSD is a replacement SSD for my current laptop. Also, sadly, non-OEM Windows is more expensive, so that plus the better memory has bumped the price up.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 5 2400G 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor $149.99 @ Newegg
Motherboard ASRock - B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard $69.99 @ Newegg
Memory Crucial - Ballistix Tactical 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $52.99 @ Newegg
Storage Crucial - BX500 120 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $21.99 @ Newegg
Storage Crucial - MX500 250 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive Purchased For $0.00
Case Rosewill - FBM-X2 MicroATX Mini Tower Case $32.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply Corsair - VS 450 W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply $43.96 @ Newegg
Operating System Microsoft - Windows 10 Home Full 32/64-bit $129.99 @ Newegg
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $501.90
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-18 00:07 EDT-0400

Will I need any more fans, or are the fans that come with the case and APU sufficient?

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