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Kitrank

4 months ago

$1,150 Budget 99.99% Black

Had a friend or two give me some advice already. They said 1. Get a Ryzen 1700X instead of a 1600 because it can be overclocked so I did 2. Ryzens love fast ram so I got 2x8gb 3200 ram sticks and my motherboard supports this exact speed 3. get a GTX 1060 instead of a Radeon 580 because it's slightly better although it has less vram. I was using a Radeon 580 with 8 GB ram, the GTX 1060 only has 6 GB. But he said that it is generally better at rendering other stuff than textures since it has slightly less ram

Just wanna know if there is anything else I should be aware of or if people wanna give me some more upgrade advice, thanks

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Kitrank/saved/LqcZRB

pcpartpicker

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  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point
  1. Get a Ryzen 1700X instead of a 1600 because it can be overclocked so I did.

The 1600 can be overclocked too. The question is if you really need a processor with 16 logical cores.

That's the major difference and not the overclock ability, as both can be overclocked.

*3. Get a GTX 1060 instead of a Radeon 580 because it's slightly better although it has less VRAM.

That depends from the game in question really, and not because it's an Nvidia GPU thus being better for gaming.

*But he said that it is generally better at rendering.

Nvidia GPUs are indeed better for visual effects and motion graphics.


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $179.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard ASRock - B450 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard $88.66 @ Newegg
Memory Team - Vulcan 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $85.88 @ OutletPC
Storage Intel - 660p Series 512 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $65.99 @ Newegg
Video Card MSI - GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB VENTUS OC Video Card $349.99 @ Newegg
Case Fractal Design - Focus G (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case $53.24 @ Amazon
Power Supply Corsair - CXM 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply $59.99 @ Amazon
Case Fan be quiet! - Pure Wings 2 120 51.4 CFM 120mm Fan $10.89 @ OutletPC
Monitor Acer - XFA240 bmjdpr 24.0" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor $199.99 @ Amazon
Keyboard Redragon - DEVARAIAS K556 RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard $59.99 @ Amazon
Mouse Logitech - G502 HERO Wired Optical Mouse $64.98 @ Amazon
Other Belkin 8"x9" Mouse Pad (Black) $3.95 @ Amazon
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total (before mail-in rebates) $1233.54
Mail-in rebates -$10.00
Total $1223.54
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-17 00:13 EDT-0400
  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks but the budget is only $1,150

  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

Oh! i see.

Then get the 1600 and do a moderate overclock.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2 GHz 6-Core Processor $119.95 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler Deepcool - GAMMAXX 400 74.34 CFM CPU Cooler $24.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard ASRock - B450 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard $88.66 @ Newegg
Memory Team - Vulcan 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $85.88 @ OutletPC
Storage Kingston - A400 480 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $49.99 @ Amazon
Video Card MSI - GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB VENTUS OC Video Card $349.99 @ Newegg
Case Fractal Design - Focus G (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case $53.24 @ Amazon
Power Supply Corsair - CXM 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply $59.99 @ Amazon
Case Fan be quiet! - Pure Wings 2 120 51.4 CFM 120mm Fan $10.89 @ OutletPC
Monitor Acer - XFA240 bmjdpr 24.0" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor $199.99 @ Amazon
Keyboard Redragon - DEVARAIAS K556 RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard $59.99 @ Amazon
Mouse Logitech - G402 Wired Optical Mouse $29.40 @ Amazon
Other Belkin 8"x9" Mouse Pad (Black) $3.95 @ Amazon
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total (before mail-in rebates) $1156.81
Mail-in rebates -$20.00
Total $1136.81
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-17 14:05 EDT-0400
  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point
  1. Like above said, 1600 can be overclocked too. However, if you're looking into the future to play new AAA games, I would choose the 1700X route also, it's probably of better value and offers you more longevity.

  2. Also true, but right now, 3000 MHz is probably the best price to performance for RAM and 200 MHz isn't going to be a noticeable difference, outside of benchmarks and side by side comparison, it won't be noticeable, yet you can save $20 or so.

  3. Not quite true. The RX 580 and GTX 1060 are equivalents, with +/-10% difference at most in modern games. This comes down to which one the games are more optimised for. More are optimised for Nvidia than AMD, but it's not a wash like 90% of them are and there's only the occasional odd game more optimised for AMD, it's just not like that at all. 8 GB vs 6 GB VRAM comes down to this precisely. Nvidia has better compression, that's why their 6 GB can match AMD's 8 GB, however, for games that are more optimised towards AMD, they just straight up want the extra VRAM and compression doesn't help, that's when the games are slightly better for the AMD cards and 8 GB VRAM kicks in, otherwise, yeah, they're practically the same. At current prices, RX 580 is far superior in value, there's no contest, go RX 580. If you a Nvidia, honestly, forget about the 1060, they've been superseded. The 1060 you chose is $270 and this is just a ridiculous price, because you can get a 1660 for marginally cheaper than that, and the 1660 is newer, faster and literally superior in every way, so just don't even consider getting a 1060 new any more. If you've budgeted out $270 for the GPU, you can actually spend $10 more and get a 1660 Ti, which is another step up.

Try this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 7 1700X 3.4 GHz 8-Core Processor $175.89 @ OutletPC
CPU Cooler Cooler Master - Hyper 212 Black Edition 42 CFM CPU Cooler $31.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard ASRock - X370 Taichi ATX AM4 Motherboard $164.98 @ Newegg
Memory ADATA - XPG GAMMIX D10 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $79.99 @ Amazon
Storage Intel - 660p Series 512 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $65.99 @ Newegg
Video Card Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1660 6 GB GAMING OC Video Card $229.99 @ Amazon
Case Cooler Master - MasterBox MB500 ATX Mid Tower Case $65.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply SeaSonic - FOCUS Gold 450 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply $64.90 @ Amazon
Monitor Acer - XFA240 bmjdpr 24.0" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor $199.99 @ Amazon
Keyboard Redragon - K551-RGB VARA Wired Standard Keyboard $49.99 @ Amazon
Mouse Logitech - G502 HERO Wired Optical Mouse $64.68 @ Amazon
Other Belkin 8"x9" Mouse Pad (Black) $3.95 @ Amazon
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $1198.32
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-17 09:04 EDT-0400
  • If you intend to overclock the 1700X to it's maximum potential, get a nice X370 because you can't cheap out for overclocking. The motherboard you chose just might not have the power delivery and you'll just get the VRM heated and it'll throttle. The Taichi is a nice motherboard and it's unnecessary to get a B450/X470 for a first generation Ryzen.

  • Cheaper RAM, 200 MHz slower. 200 MHz RAM speed is just not worth $20.

  • I swapped to a 512 GB 660p. Honestly, I'd recommend getting an SSD now rather than the HDD. Yes, it might not be enough, but it's easier to add a HDD for storage later than adding an SSD later because you're going to have to reinstall Windows, so this just saves that trouble.

  • 1660 chosen. Newer, cheaper, faster than the 1060, no contest.

  • Case suggestion just to save a few dollars, you don't have to go with this.

  • 450W is enough for the PSU for the build and you'll sit nicely on the efficiency curve. The 1660 just doesn't use that much power, so there's no need to even get a 550W.

  • I can't get it down to $1150, but this is a few dollars cheaper than what you had.

  • Just my opinion.

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