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First Desktop Build Please Check It Out!

NamelessHarbinger

4 months ago

So I've been using a Gaming Laptop Setup for 5 years now and I think its time for me to step up and upgrade to a Gaming Desktop, I mostly use my setup for multi-tasking and a lot of gaming and I've been thinking of streaming and recording videos to post on youtube, this is my first time building, so I would like to hear from you guys on what your opinion from the build I came up with, please feel free to give suggestions to what I can improve and what's better, and if you have a build you can recommend I would like to see it. My budget would be $2000.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel - Core i7-9700K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor $389.99 @ Walmart
CPU Cooler NZXT - Kraken X62 Liquid CPU Cooler $184.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard Asus - PRIME Z390-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $189.99 @ B&H
Memory G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $129.99 @ Amazon
Storage Samsung - 860 Evo 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive $147.99 @ Amazon
Storage Western Digital - Black 4 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $174.99 @ Newegg
Video Card NVIDIA - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8 GB Founders Edition Video Card $558.89 @ Amazon
Case NZXT - H700 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case $125.00 @ Amazon
Power Supply SeaSonic - FOCUS Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply $60.31 @ B&H
Case Fan NZXT - Aer RGB140 71.6 CFM 140mm Fan $34.99 @ Newegg Business
Case Fan NZXT - Aer RGB140 71.6 CFM 140mm Fan $34.99 @ Newegg Business
Case Fan NZXT - Aer RGB140 71.6 CFM 140mm Fan $34.99 @ Newegg Business
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total (before mail-in rebates) $2082.01
Mail-in rebates -$15.00
Total $2067.01
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-16 18:03 EDT-0400

Comments

  • 4 months ago
  • 2 points

There is quite a few ways to go here. I think it depends how seriously you want to take the streaming/recording though.

The biggest mistake for me would be the 1070 Ti, its the same performance as the 2060 and too expensive! If high refresh gaming is the most desirable thing then at this budget I would want a 2080.

The i7 9700K is OK, but 8 cores no hyperthreading will hurt it streaming when compared to the 9900K or even the 8700K (6 cores but 12 threads).

The cheaper option would something like the Ryzen 2700(x) which will do a very decent job of this task for so much less money.

You are also paying a lot to cool the CPU not the mention the $100+ on three case fans..., I know it looks nice but its money that could be spent on improving performance and not aesthetics.

  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

Just as an example you could have this

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel - Core i9-9900K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor $479.99 @ Walmart
CPU Cooler be quiet! - Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler $84.99 @ SuperBiiz
Motherboard MSI - MAG Z390 TOMAHAWK ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $152.96 @ Amazon
Memory GeIL - SUPER LUCE RGB SYNC 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $84.99 @ Newegg
Storage Western Digital - Blue 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $119.99 @ Newegg
Storage Seagate - BarraCuda Pro 4 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $144.99 @ Newegg
Video Card Zotac - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB GAMING AMP Video Card $649.99 @ Amazon
Case Fractal Design - Meshify C Dark TG ATX Mid Tower Case $94.99 @ Walmart
Power Supply SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply $89.99 @ SuperBiiz
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $1902.88
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-16 19:48 EDT-0400
  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

Would you consider this build did tiny bit of changes but I like your idea and can you explain further the difference between the 1070ti and the 2080 and how the performance of the i9 is better, I was planning on sticking with AIO do you think its any good? without caring for the price?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel - Core i9-9900K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor $479.99 @ Walmart
CPU Cooler be quiet! - Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler $84.99 @ SuperBiiz
Motherboard Gigabyte - Z390 DESIGNARE ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $269.49 @ SuperBiiz
Memory G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $129.99 @ Amazon
Storage Western Digital - Blue 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $119.99 @ Newegg
Storage Seagate - BarraCuda Pro 4 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $144.99 @ Newegg
Video Card Zotac - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB GAMING AMP Video Card $649.99 @ Amazon
Case NZXT - H700 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case $125.00 @ Amazon
Power Supply SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply $89.99 @ SuperBiiz
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $2094.42
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-16 20:25 EDT-0400
  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

The motherboard is a bit over the top unless you really want to push the CPU when overclocking. You could shave the $100 off there.

The 2080 would be 1080 Ti level of performance if you were to compare between the generations so a big jump over the 1070 Ti which has been replaced by the 2060 in terms of performance.

  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

I changed it to the Gigabyte Aorus I don't know how this performs but others suggested it so we'll see how it goes, and if I get a 1080ti instead of the 2080 would there be a difference?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel - Core i9-9900K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor $479.99 @ Walmart
CPU Cooler be quiet! - Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler $84.99 @ SuperBiiz
Motherboard Gigabyte - Z390 AORUS PRO WIFI ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $184.99 @ Amazon
Memory G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $125.98 @ Newegg
Storage Western Digital - Blue 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $119.89 @ OutletPC
Storage Seagate - BarraCuda Pro 4 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $144.99 @ Newegg
Video Card Zotac - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB GAMING AMP Video Card $649.99 @ Amazon
Case NZXT - H700 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case $125.00 @ Amazon
Power Supply SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply $89.99 @ SuperBiiz
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total (before mail-in rebates) $2015.81
Mail-in rebates -$10.00
Total $2005.81
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-16 23:59 EDT-0400
  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point
  1. you could chop the ram speed to around 3000mhz, as that's generally higher end.

  2. AIO's are generally not as cost effective as a good air cooler

For the difference between the 1070ti and the 2080, Nvidia has stopped manufacturing 10 series cards, causing the price of new ones to have spiked as the remaining stock's price is being driven up by the retailers. Not to mention that the 1070ti roughly equals a 2060 whereas a 2080 equates to a 1080ti. Not to mention the new turing architecture in the 20 series cards which is much better for streaming/recording. In 2019 a 10 series card isn't really a good option.

  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

do you have any recommendations for both AIO or an Air cooler for this setup, I chose the AIO for it's aesthetics really and to make more space.

  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

generally, the best price to performance AIO is either the Corsair H100i, the Evga CLC 240 or the Deepcool Captain 240ex. The clc being better for performance (louder but better overclocks) the captain being better on silence (not as good for overclocking but cheaper) and the H100i landing in between.

You could save a lot of money if you went for an air cooler like a mugen 7, a le grand macho or a noctua d14 or something of the like.

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  • 4 months ago
  • 2 points

You can do better in the GPU department with a newer and better performing RTX 2070 for less. The 1070 ti FE blower card is overpriced. An aftermarket air cooled card is recommended with a heftier HSF (keeping thermals in check and employing some additional performance via factory OC)

For a gaming and streaming rig, it's advisable to secure some additional processing power, either opting for the 2700X from AMD or the i9-9900K from intel. Both of these options enable multi-threaded support for 30-35% additional processing power. Very effective for streaming (encoding) with lesser offset on gaming performance.

Display resolution? If you haven't purchased one, have you considered the sharper image 1440p resolution?

Planning on overclocking?

  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

My current monitor is ASUS VG245H and I'm planning on getting the ASUS VG278Q or the ASUS ROG Swift PG279QZ once I figure out this build. Can you please show me an example or revised build to what you are saying.

  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

Sure,

Your display selection consists of a 1080p 144hz display or a 1440p 144hz panel. It would be a good idea to plan ahead in choosing which one you'll be sticking with. The 1080p 144hz resolution is perfect for an RTX 2060/RTX 2070. If opting for the 1440p resolution, RTX 2080 would be the more fitting option if you're planning on hitting around 90-140fps in various games on high settings.

Personally I would opt for the RTX 2080 with the larger, sharper image and more game-immersive 1440p panel (ASUS ROG Swift PG279QZ or a similar one with a more reasonable price tag - if possible). Depending on how comfortable you are with your budget, you might want to re-analyse how badly you want RGB or would you be more willing to secure top-performance in the long run by ditching RGB all-together for the i9-9900K CPU (its an expensive CPU). If you fancy keeping the RGB element alive, there's absolutely no problem with that considering the alternative Ryzen 2700X processor for current gaming/streaming demands is fantastic. The CPU selection between these 2 options isn't a huge problem, as higher resolution gaming (1440p) is more GPU-bound opposed to CPU. Hence gaming performance won't be affected, and where differences do arise especially in games which are poorly optimised, the 2700X gets the job done either way hence those differences are negligible.

So let us know which resolution you'll be going for (1080p or 1440p)?

Also are you planning on overclocking? If not you can save some $$$ here opting for a more suitable cooler and reasonably priced motherboard as your current selections are more worthy of CPU manual overclocks.

Are you happy to drop RGB to secure some added performance or is RGB something you absolutely desire within the 2K budget?

  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

I need to research how the 1440p looks like cuz right now I was planning on getting the ASUS VG278Q 27” only goes for 1080p, I’m currently using a ASUS VG245H 24” 1080p kinda makes everything looks so big so most likely I’ll be getting 1440p, I might go for 2080 so I can just switch monitors depending on my preference, and yes I kinda am a fan with RGB I like to make my setup look nice if possible, but you can show me the build so I can re-think about it to see if I really need it. About over locking that’s something that I need to learn still and for your opinion since you know more than I do, do you think this setup is best if I overclock it or would it be fine if I keep it stock? I am down to learn how to overclock and how it works in the future.

  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

24" is a better fit for 1080p resolution displays. 27" on 1080p is an extended panel size with enlarged pixels to fit the screen size (things will look bigger). In some more complex detailing in games, things start to took a little washed up (if that matters to you). Pixel density is key if you're sitting up close to the display as it produces a higher level of image sharpness. Since 1440p adds 30%'ish more pixels , the 27" size makes for a perfect fit with sharper image detailing. You mentioned everything looks big on your current panel, the solution here being = 1440p. More pixels with their maintained smaller size ratio = smaller detailed objects, sharper image + more screen real estate.

Overclocking is not necessary at all, especially with these current day newer generation CPUs. The auto-boost clocks are more than sufficient for plenty of power for the long run. Another thing to note - higher resolution gaming is less dependant on CPU-bound conditions as graphics quality is all about the GPU. It's nice to have something thats capable of overclocking for the long run but @ 1440p gaming, you won't notice hardly any difference.

Your current list is sitting at $2300, and i'm assuming you're also picking up a display at the same time for $300. Total assumed budget: $2600.

Here's where I would be: (including the display)

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7 GHz 8-Core Processor $294.89 @ OutletPC
CPU Cooler NZXT - Kraken X72 Liquid CPU Cooler $159.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard MSI - X470 GAMING PRO CARBON ATX AM4 Motherboard $198.98 @ Newegg
Memory G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $125.98 @ Newegg
Storage Intel - 660p Series 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $109.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card MSI - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB GAMING X TRIO Video Card $799.99 @ B&H
Case NZXT - H700 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case $125.00 @ Amazon
Power Supply SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply $97.98 @ Newegg
Operating System Microsoft - Windows 10 Home Full - USB 32/64-bit $110.59 @ Amazon
Monitor Acer - XB271HU bmiprz 27.0" 2560x1440 165 Hz Monitor $599.99 @ B&H
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $2623.28
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-17 16:42 EDT-0400
  • i9-9900K is not necessary + the AMD platform is open to AMD's next generation of faster 7nm CPUs hence a less-cost turbulent upgrade path.

  • I left the AIO cooler on there as I believe this is more of an aesthetics requirement. Great for overclocking though! The 2700X comes with a pretty nifty RGB cooler which runs great at stock or mild overclocks. If you feel you're spending too much, you can always upgrade to an aftermarket cooler later as these are very easy to replace.

  • Faster M.2 SSD which surprisingly comes in cheaper. I've personally tested these units and they're absolutely fantastic for your purpose of use. The M.2 form factor SSD doesn't require POWER/SATA cables and simply connects onto the mobo with a single screw (lesser cables = easier cable management). Although, you might prefer a 2.5" drive to populate the front drive bay on the H700 case. I did the same for my S340 elite case - aesthetics matter hehe!

  • A cooler running custom PCB GPU with improved thermals, added headroom for some overclocking + lower noise levels compared to most of these higher-end RTX 2080 cards.

  • 550W on the PSU is sufficient for a non-overclocking rig. If overclocking I would target the 650W range which also allows for some added headroom for future upgrades. I've added a 750W unit which comes with an extra CPU power connector (EPS) - this may come very handy when upgrading the machine especially if the near future upgrades demand a higher power draw for overclocking (eg. next generation of AMD CPUs)

  • Swapped the Windows OEM license for a Full license (fully transferable). OEM variants are single licenses per motherboard hence in a few years down the line you'll be having to purchase Windows again.

  • Added a 27" 1440p 144hz display. This one is a gorgeous colour-rich IPS panel with GSYNC enabled (smoother frames and screen-tear elimination). I purchased the same panel in 2017 and all I can say is "wow", certainly won't be shifting back to 1080p. I wasn't a big fan of the red legs so replaced the stand with single arm-mount eg. https://www.amazon.com/VIVO-Monitor-Adjustable-Articulating-STAND-V001/dp/B00B21TLQU/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=single+arm+mount&qid=1555533703&s=electronics&sr=1-3

Feel free to query any of the selections.

  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

What would be the difference from the motherboard you gave me to the gigabyte I have, I recently got introduced to it and had some confidence with it, and yes I agree i9 is kinda expensive I'm just worried with the i7 it might not work good cuz currently I'm using an i7-6700HQ I think its decent for me since I never owned a desktop before, I want something that's way faster, I see the i7-8700k is good, how is it better than the i7-9700k I would prefer using Intel just for me personally, but I'm looking forward to build my girlfriend her own gaming PC and there I might use AMD on hers. I see the m.2 SSD you're showing, a couple of people have suggested that to me, what is the difference of it from the other m.2 SSD besides its build and price, and does does both of the GPU gigabye and msi 2080 run similar? what do you mean by headroom? I'm sorry for all of these questions haha.

  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

2ND OPTION BEING:

Stick to moderately high overclocking or zero overclocking and take a faster core-2-core performing i9-9900K. Won't make any difference in gaming performance (or negligible at best) but does offer faster operations in general, if preferred. The i9 in my opinion is a little overpriced hence for me it's "optional"

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel - Core i9-9900K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor $479.99 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler Thermalright - Macho Rev.B 73.6 CFM CPU Cooler $49.90 @ Amazon
Motherboard Gigabyte - Z390 AORUS ELITE ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $159.99 @ Amazon
Memory G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $125.98 @ Newegg
Storage Intel - 660p Series 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $109.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card MSI - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB GAMING X TRIO Video Card $799.99 @ B&H
Case NZXT - H700 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case $125.00 @ Amazon
Power Supply SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply $97.98 @ Newegg
Operating System Microsoft - Windows 10 Home Full - USB 32/64-bit $110.59 @ Amazon
Monitor Acer - XB271HU bmiprz 27.0" 2560x1440 165 Hz Monitor $599.99 @ B&H
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $2659.30
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-17 16:58 EDT-0400
  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

I made another topic for a revised full build, this is the latest one I got after hearing opinions, please check it out and let me know what you think, this kinda matches what we were talking about.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel - Core i9-9900K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor $479.99 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler NZXT - Kraken X72 Liquid CPU Cooler $159.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard Gigabyte - Z390 AORUS PRO WIFI ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $184.99 @ Amazon
Memory G.Skill - Trident Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $100.99 @ Newegg
Storage Samsung - 860 Evo 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive $147.99 @ Amazon
Storage Seagate - BarraCuda Pro 4 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $144.99 @ Newegg
Video Card Gigabyte - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB GAMING OC Video Card $759.99 @ Amazon
Case NZXT - H700i ATX Mid Tower Case $179.99 @ NZXT
Power Supply SeaSonic - FOCUS Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply $60.31 @ B&H
Operating System Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit $99.39 @ OutletPC
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total (before mail-in rebates) $2343.62
Mail-in rebates -$25.00
Total $2318.62
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-17 13:44 EDT-0400
  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

What monitor do you plan on using?

As for the build my only recommendations would be a fully modular PSU, and while 550 is absolutely enough, I prefer a tad bit more power under the hood for any potential upgrades, that's just me though. Maybe a NVMe drive for OS and a bigger/multiple ssds and scrap the HDD, just getting nit picky, none of that is "necessary".

  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

I might stick to 1080p or go for 1440p, and can you show me an example build please.

  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

For a similar price, this will be better:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel - Core i9-9900K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor $479.99 @ Walmart
CPU Cooler Cooler Master - MasterLiquid ML360R RGB 66.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler $154.97 @ Amazon
Motherboard Gigabyte - Z390 AORUS PRO WIFI ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $184.99 @ Amazon
Memory Team - T-Force Delta RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $99.99 @ Newegg
Storage Intel - 660p Series 2 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $199.99 @ Newegg
Storage Seagate - Barracuda 3 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $79.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card Gigabyte - GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB WINDFORCE Video Card $478.99 @ SuperBiiz
Case Cooler Master - MasterCase H500M ATX Mid Tower Case $189.99 @ Newegg Business
Power Supply SeaSonic - FOCUS Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply $75.31 @ Amazon
Case Fan NZXT - Aer RGB140 71.6 CFM 140mm Fan $34.99 @ Newegg Business
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $1979.10
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-16 20:32 EDT-0400
  • I always say this, at current prices, when you hit the $2000 mark, it should be a 9900K build, so I've swapped it to that.

  • Forget about ASUS for Z390s, all of them. They're using a 4-power phase design which is just bad for overclocking and the VRM temperatures are the warmest among the big four, so just skip ASUS for Z390s. Gigabyte is the one to go to for Z390s.

  • These RAM sticks are just suggestions. Same performance, cheaper price. If you want the Trident Z because you like their design more, that's fine, it's just a $30 premium for it.

  • Changed your storage around. Don't get TLC SATA SSDs any more, they've been superseded by QLC NVMe SSDs. $175 for 4 TB HDD is just ridiculous, don't even consider it. WD Black HDDs have no superior value, so forget about it. In your selections, you're paying $323 for 1 TB SATA SSD and 4 TB HDD. If you take my suggestions, you're getting 2 TB NVMe SSD and 3 TB HDD for $280. Goes without saying which is the superior value.

  • Don't get the 1070 Ti any more if you're buying new. It's not worth the money. The 2070 is cheaper and faster, no contest.

  • These extra fans you're getting, I'm assuming you're replacing the X62's fans and the rear case fan for aesthetics, if not, they're pretty much going to waste, since the front is a closed front so if you're replacing the front fans, you can't see the RGB anyway.

  • Cases are very subjective and down to personal preference, but I just wanted to make a suggestion, which can save you a few dollars. If you get the H500M I've suggested here, you can get a cheaper liquid cooler that already has RGB that will fit on the top of this case. It also comes with two large RGB fans on the front, so if you want full RGB, you only need to buy one extra fan to replace the rear exhaust fan. It's a mesh front, so it'll have better airflow. This is just my suggestion to save a little money. If you want to save another $20, you can consider the H500P mesh (avoid the non-mesh version) which is a downgrade from this H500M. Cases are strictly personal, so if you don't like the look of this, forget about this and keep the case, fans and cooler you've selected.

In all honesty, if you shave off some RGB, you can get a 2080 instead of a 2070. I would actually do this rather than get the three extra fans. You can get the extra fans for RGB later and replace the current ones easily. If you get a 2070 now, getting a 2080 later means you need to go through the process of selling a used 2070, in which it'll work out to cost you a lot more money.

  • Just my opinion.
  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

I thought if I went i9 it would cost me around 4k or more I never thought of it but thank you, I'm sorry about the motherboard I'm an Asus fan I don't know much about the others so I just picked what I could seem to trust, but I like these suggestions you gave me I was looking into Aorus motherboards as well it was my 2nd option, and with the ram I'll keep it, and with the coolers do you think there would be a difference if I use Kraken X72 instead? and like you mentioned with the case fans, I really dont think I need them, without being said I changed the GPU to 2080 I'm not sure if that's a good one and if this case I want would fit everything.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel - Core i9-9900K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor $479.99 @ Walmart
CPU Cooler NZXT - Kraken X72 Liquid CPU Cooler $159.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard Gigabyte - Z390 AORUS PRO WIFI ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $184.99 @ Amazon
Memory Team - T-Force Delta RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $99.99 @ Newegg
Storage Intel - 660p Series 2 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $199.99 @ Newegg
Storage Seagate - Barracuda 3 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $79.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card Asus - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB ROG Strix Gaming OC Video Card $769.99 @ Newegg
Case NZXT - H700 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case $125.00 @ Amazon
Power Supply SeaSonic - FOCUS Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply $60.31 @ B&H
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total (before mail-in rebates) $2205.14
Mail-in rebates -$45.00
Total $2160.14
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-16 21:49 EDT-0400
  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

Yeah, I understand the concern, but the 9900K price has come down and the 2080 prices have come down, it's like $100 to get them now than a few months ago.

No need to be sorry, everyone has their preferences, but I wanted to let you know. ASUS has been regarded as "the best" in terms of quality for the last few years and people say their BIOS is the best, so they've built up quite a large fan base. If they didn't intend to rip off fan loyalty with their approach to the Z390s, it beats me why they decided to cheap out on them. Gigabyte on the other hand have always been regarded as third/fourth among the big four, but they really stepped up on the Z390s, and widely considered as the best. Their BIOS is still a bit "meh" but it's like they say, you can learn the BIOS, you can't alter the VRM.

The X62 vs X72 isn't too big of a difference in performance. The X72 does have a slight edge being a 360mm and is a few degrees cooler. I mean, 360mm vs 280mm seems like a lot, there's a 20%+ difference, but 140mm fans move more air and when you work out the surface area, it's not that big. The fans of a 360mm have about 339mm surface area whereas the 280mm have about 308mm surface area, so there's only about a 10% difference in reality, and that's where the few degrees cooler of a 360mm comes from. You can look at comparison charts to get a good idea of how much cooler it actually is.

That GPU should be fine, and if in doubt, read a few reviews on it first. I usually don't recommend a specific GPU model/brand and anything I choose is just a representation, unless there's a really good deal on a particular one.

As for the case, this is where it ties in with the cooler. The H700 will let you mount the X72 on top, and as of current prices, the X72 is only $7 more in price to the X62 Rev 2 (this just comes with a mounting kit for the AM4 as well and it's currently cheaper) so for a $2000+ build, yeah, I'd just spend that extra $7 for slightly better cooling. Everything should fit without issues. The case comes with three front fans and a rear fan by default, so all the fan mounting spots are occupied like this. If you really want RGB fans for the rear and the liquid cooler, you can replace them later, but for now, I would get this first.

Good luck.

  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

First impressions:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel - Core i9-9900K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor $479.99 @ Walmart
CPU Cooler Deepcool - CAPTAIN 240EX RGB 153.04 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler $77.59 @ Newegg
Motherboard MSI - MAG Z390 TOMAHAWK ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $152.96 @ Amazon
Memory GeIL - SUPER LUCE RGB SYNC 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $84.99 @ Newegg
Storage Intel - 660p Series 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $109.99 @ Newegg
Storage Toshiba - X300 6 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $145.99 @ Amazon
Video Card Gigabyte - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB TURBO OC Video Card $703.99 @ Newegg
Case NZXT - H700 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case $125.00 @ Amazon
Power Supply Cooler Master - MWE Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply $54.99 @ B&H
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total (before mail-in rebates) $1985.49
Mail-in rebates -$50.00
Total $1935.49
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-19 14:36 EDT-0400
  • CPU with hyper-threading
  • cheaper liquid cooler with higher CFM
  • cheaper motherboard
  • cheaper RAM
  • cheaper SSD (with NVMe speeds)
  • more HDD storage for less
  • much faster GPU
  • cheaper PSU
  • removed RGB fans
  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

how good would you rate this thing when it comes to gaming and multi-tasking such as editing or streaming, I like how the build looks like.

  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

I'd say it would do very well, it has a 16 thread CPU and a powerful GPU.

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