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Adreaver 2 days ago

Hello all,

I had a friend ask me to build a gaming PC for him. I am using the following part list:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor $164.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard Asus - TUF B450M-PLUS GAMING Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard $76.99 @ Newegg
Memory Corsair - Vengeance RGB Pro 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $103.99 @ Newegg Business
Storage Western Digital - Blue 250 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $48.89 @ OutletPC
Storage Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $42.99 @ Newegg
Video Card MSI - Radeon RX 580 8 GB ARMOR OC Video Card $199.99 @ Amazon
Case Deepcool - TESSERACT SW ATX Mid Tower Case $48.18 @ B&H
Power Supply Corsair - CX (2017) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply $45.99 @ Amazon
Optical Drive LG - WH14NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer $53.00 @ Amazon
Monitor Acer - Nitro VG240Y bmiix 23.8" 1920x1080 75 Hz Monitor $129.99 @ Amazon
Keyboard Logitech - Wireless Combo MK270 Wireless Standard Keyboard w/Optical Mouse $19.99 @ Amazon
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $934.89
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-16 12:24 EDT-0400

He is targeting 1080p60-75 (FreeSync) and his budget is $1k all in. Peripherals are the cheapest available just to get him up and running, he will buy better ones later on.

Any feedback/criticism is appreciated!

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Zerk2012 1 Build 1 point 2 days ago
Khaosix 22 Builds 1 point 2 days ago

I am not going to post a parts list like most people will but I will say this.

  • Ditch the RGB Memory and get 3200MHz while saving $20
  • Ditch the RX 580 and use the $20 from memory to buy a GTX 1660
  • You can save some money on the case if there is something cheaper that he still likes the looks of
  • 450W is cutting it super slim with an RX 580/R5 2600. If you do go with a 1660 like I mentioned, 450 would be ok.
  • Is BluRay burner necessary? If so, that's fine, just re-evaluate that.. $50 is a lot for an optical on a budget build (maybe something to be added later)

If you want, I would be more than happy to put a build together for you for <$1000, but I think your build already looks good, just needs some tweaks.

PS: Are you near a Microcenter?

Adreaver submitter 1 point 2 days ago

RGB RAM, Case, and ODD are non negotiable - those are the only things he picked.

PCP wattage calculator shows 294W, I figured ~150W was enough headroom and might even support a mild OC, how much wattage would you recommend if I stick with the 580?

I will look into 850 vs 1660 again, my understanding was that 580 is considerably better value but 1660 is better performance (though I may have been looking at 1660ti).

Thanks for the feedback.

Khaosix 22 Builds 1 point 2 days ago

With a 2600 mildly OC'd and an RX 580, you are looking at closer to 350-360W while full load gaming which would be about 80% of the PSU rated wattage. This would be perfectly fine IMO if it were a better quality PSU, but 80% load for 6-8 hour sessions will degrade the PSU faster. Am I being overly cautions? Yes. Would it probably be fine? Also yes..

Dollar for Dollar performance (@1080p) assuming the RX 580 is $170 and the GTX 1660 is $220, the 1660 actually has better price to performance ratio.. So since your RX 580 is $180, the 1660 is even more of a winner. Source.

EDIT: The power consumption I was looking at was misconstrued using old data. With the current PSU, you are looking at 70% load. While that is still fine, I would still recommend going up to a 550 which will put the load closer to 50% which will give it peak efficiency and longevity.. But as I said above, it will probably be fine anyways, I am just overly cautious, especially when we are talking about $10.

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staffsMike 1 point 2 days ago

I feel like this is a better build for gaming experience. Storage and optical could be added to later.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor $164.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard Asus - TUF B450M-PLUS GAMING Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard $76.99 @ Newegg
Memory Team - Dark 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $79.99 @ Newegg
Storage Crucial - MX500 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $62.95 @ Amazon
Video Card MSI - GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6 GB VENTUS XS OC Video Card $279.99 @ Newegg
Case Thermaltake - Versa H15 MicroATX Mid Tower Case $34.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply Corsair - CX (2017) 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply $54.99 @ Amazon
Monitor Dell - D2719HGF 27.0" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor $179.99 @ Amazon
Keyboard Redragon - K552 Wired Gaming Keyboard $34.99 @ Amazon
Mouse Logitech - G402 Wired Optical Mouse $28.99 @ Amazon
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $998.76
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-16 12:49 EDT-0400
LightningProd 1 point 2 days ago

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor $164.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard Asus - TUF B450M-PLUS GAMING Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard $76.99 @ Newegg
Memory GeIL - SUPER LUCE RGB SYNC 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $84.99 @ Newegg
Storage Samsung - PM981 256 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $51.94 @ Amazon
Storage Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $58.50 @ Amazon
Video Card PowerColor - Radeon RX 590 8 GB RED DRAGON Video Card $214.99 @ Newegg
Case Fractal Design - Focus G Mini (Black) MicroATX Mini Tower Case $46.23 @ Amazon
Power Supply SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply $50.98 @ Newegg
Optical Drive LG - WH14NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer $53.00 @ Amazon
Monitor Acer - SB220Q bi 21.5" 1920x1080 75 Hz Monitor $89.99 @ Amazon
Keyboard Redragon - K551 Wired Gaming Keyboard $38.99 @ Amazon
Mouse Logitech - G203 Prodigy Wired Optical Mouse $27.00 @ Amazon
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total (before mail-in rebates) $983.59
Mail-in rebates -$25.00
Total $958.59
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-16 12:57 EDT-0400
  • cheaper RAM
  • faster SSD
  • 2x the HDD storage
  • better GPU (I would have gone with a 1660 but the cheapest G-Sync monitor is $300)
  • better (smaller) case
  • much better PSU
  • cheaper monitor (still has FreeSync and is IPS)
  • better keyboard/mouse (I wouldn't suggest the one you first picked, it is known for connection problems)

(Also, does he really need a Blu-ray drive? I left it there just in case he does.)

yawumpus 1 point 2 days ago

You could get a 2TB drive for the price of that 1TB HDD (either a Seagate or Hitachi in 7200rpm or WD in 5600rpm. I'd go with a Hitachi). Normally I'd recommend going straight to the 3TB drives, but they seem to have suddenly gotten expensive... (with a 4TB Seagate cheaper than all of them at ~$75).

Note that the SSD isn't a real "m.2-2280" device but plugs into one of those ports and connects via SATA. If your friend hates cables, that is certainly a plus, but any reliable 500GB SATA drive will be faster (although probably a few bucks more).

RGB memory seems goofy, depends how much bling you want.

I'll note that the 8G RX580 video card includes a $20 rebate that doesn't appear to be shown, so it should compare well to the $220 GTX1660. You might want a different power supply.

One more point about the bluray writer: a quick sanity check lists 50 bluray discs (1.2TB) at ~$35. Adding an additional terabyte of space on the HDD is a few bucks for the first one and ~$35 for a 4TB HDD (it won't be 7200rpm, but optical discs are much slower). It really only makes sense if you need backups too small for flash, too big for the cloud or you want to transfer video to a TV via sneakernet.

PS: while it is traditional here to leave out the price of windows, don't spring it as a last minute detail if it blows the budget.

HopefulToad 1 point 1 day ago

I doubt the Blu-ray drive is intended for writing Blu-ray discs; more likely, the intent is to be able to play Blu-ray movies using this build. I checked, and the selected drive is the cheapest one listed on PCPP with Blu-ray playback capability. It just happens to be able to write Blu-ray discs as well.

yawumpus 1 point 1 day ago

ouch. Microcenter used to have plenty of cheap OEM optical drives. Last week I went there and saw only one model, at least as expensive as this burner (I'm not sure if it did bluray or not). The world changes.