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$3500 Workstation for VRay (AMD TR?)

benckend

3 months ago

Hey folks!

I'm looking for a PC build primarily for VRay and rendering intensive work. This is not primarily meant to be a gaming machine.

The budget is $3000-$4000 USD for the computer itself. NO PERIPHERALS included in that price range.

I've heard good things about AMD's Threadripper CPUs and think the higher core/thread count will really help for rendering compared to the i9. I'd love some feedback on that for any build y'all create!

I'm not worried about any themes or getting this in a super compact form factor. As usual, the main focus is to find a good balance between price and performance. If you have any questions please ask!

Thanks in advance!

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  • 3 months ago
  • 2 points

So, just wanted to let you know that I based a lot of my part selection based on Puget Systems article which is linked below.

https://www.pugetsystems.com/recommended/Recommended-Systems-for-V-Ray-199/Hardware-Recommendations

It seems that as far as price-to-performance goes, the 2950X is the obvious choice considering the 9980XE is $2,000 by itself and the 7980XE isn't much less than that. As far as GPU goes, I am not sure if a single 2080ti would be better than two 2080s with NVLink so that might be worth looking further into. I can't seem to find much information about how V-Ray scales with NVLink.

I left storage out because I am unsure what your needs are. I am also not very knowledgeable on CPU coolers that work well with the TR4 platform so I left it with AMD's cooler that is designed for TR4, however, there might be something that is far better for the price of the Wraith Ripper.

So in the end, a lot of 'unsures' but hopefully I at least provided you with a decent baseline of where to start.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Threadripper 2950X 3.5 GHz 16-Core Processor $799.89 @ OutletPC
CPU Cooler Cooler Master - Wraith Ripper 76.4 CFM CPU Cooler $119.99 @ Newegg
Motherboard Gigabyte - X399 AORUS PRO ATX TR4 Motherboard $279.99 @ Amazon
Memory Corsair - Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $204.99 @ Corsair
Video Card EVGA - GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB XC ULTRA GAMING Video Card $1249.99 @ Amazon
Case Fractal Design - Meshify C Dark TG ATX Mid Tower Case $94.99 @ Walmart
Power Supply SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply $119.89 @ OutletPC
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total (before mail-in rebates) $2894.73
Mail-in rebates -$25.00
Total $2869.73
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-03-28 15:42 EDT-0400
  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks for putting this together. I've noticed that the Gigabyte X399 is being recommended a lot. Why is that? Is it clearly better than other mobos?

  • 3 months ago
  • 2 points

No problem! Well, it seemed like the best value to me when putting your list together. It's not the cheapest X399 but it's far from the most expensive and still has metal lined PCI-E slots, 3 M.2 ports, SLI support, plenty of fan headers, USB Type C, etc. To me, it had everything that anyone could need.

I'm also a big fan of Aorus motherboards. I use a Gaming 7 with my 2700X and it's awesome. Oh, and one thing I would definitely add to the list is a few fans. Between a 2950X and 2080ti, you'll definitely want some decent airflow which is the primary reason I chose the Meshify C case. It has an mesh front panel.

  • 3 months ago
  • 2 points

Complete build w/storage.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU *AMD - Threadripper 2950X 3.5 GHz 16-Core Processor $799.89 @ OutletPC
CPU Cooler Noctua - NH-U14S TR4-SP3 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler $79.90 @ Amazon
Motherboard ASRock - X399 Taichi ATX TR4 Motherboard $304.98 @ Newegg
Memory Crucial - Ballistix Sport LT 32 GB (4 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $185.99 @ Amazon
Storage HP - EX920 512 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $76.99 @ Newegg
Storage Samsung - 860 Evo 2 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive $347.99 @ B&H
Storage Western Digital - Blue 6 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive $153.63 @ Amazon
Video Card EVGA - GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB XC ULTRA GAMING Video Card $1249.99 @ B&H
Case Phanteks - Enthoo Pro M Tempered Glass (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case $99.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply Corsair - RMx 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply $149.99 @ Amazon
Case Fan Phanteks - PH-F140SP_BK 82.1 CFM 140mm Fan $18.98 @ Newegg
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $3468.32
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-03-28 17:54 EDT-0400
  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks for the list! It seems like the AMD TR 2950X is the way to go.

  • 3 months ago
  • 0 points

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Threadripper 2950X 3.5 GHz 16-Core Processor $799.89 @ OutletPC
CPU Cooler Cooler Master - Wraith Ripper 76.4 CFM CPU Cooler $119.99 @ Newegg
Motherboard ASRock - X399 Taichi ATX TR4 Motherboard $304.98 @ Newegg
Memory G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 32 GB (4 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $210.98 @ Newegg
Storage Samsung - 970 Evo 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $247.99 @ B&H
Storage Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $59.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card EVGA - GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB XC GAMING Video Card $1209.99 @ B&H
Case Fractal Design - Define R6 Gunmetal TG ATX Mid Tower Case $119.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply Corsair - RMx 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply $143.88 @ OutletPC
Operating System Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit $99.39 @ OutletPC
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total (before mail-in rebates) $3346.97
Mail-in rebates -$30.00
Total $3316.97
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-03-28 15:51 EDT-0400

Just like the ProbablyProdigy, I have no idea what cooler to use, so I used the wraith ripper as well.

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  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

I appreciate the list. Is there a reason you chose the Radeon over a 2080? Also, do you think 64 GB of RAM will make a big difference? I'm not super familiar with how VRay uses resources. Thanks.

  • 3 months ago
  • 2 points

The Radeon VII's performance is somewhat mixed, so it won't be as good as the 2080

As for the RAM, I'm not sure that you need 64GB (unless your projects are pretty massive)

  • 3 months ago
  • 2 points

From the article that ProbalyProdigy recommended, (https://www.pugetsystems.com/recommended/Recommended-Systems-for-V-Ray-199/Hardware-Recommendations), it recommends the 32 core 2990WX Threadripper CPU, although this is harder to fit into your budget the implication that more cores are better is clear.

GPU performance, as you can see from this link, (https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/V-Ray-NVIDIA-GeForce-RTX-2070-2080-2080-Ti-GPU-Rendering-Performance-1242/), "non" SLI, dual/2 X RTX 2070's completed the V-Ray Benchmark 1.0.8 in only 33 seconds as opposed to 52 seconds for a single RTX 2080 ti. At less than a $1,000 for a pair of RTX 2070's you are getting significantly more performance than the RTX 2080 ti which is more expensive and only has 11 GB of V-Ram compared to the combined 16 GB of the 2070's.

The new list below includes the 2 x RTX 2070's but the second was added manually, (see other at the bottom of the list), because pcpartpicker doesn't normally allow including more one GPU if they aren't either crossfire or SLI supported, however for the V-Ray tests twin RTX 2070's were used without having or requiring SLI/NVlink support.

This is what the article has to say about RAM;

Quote: "While the exact amount of RAM you need is going to depend on your particular projects, for V-Ray RT (and GPU rendering in general) we generally recommend 32GB. V-Ray Adv is more likely to use additional memory, but in the end it comes down to how large and complex your scenes are. RAM is comparatively cheap, so erring on the side of caution with 64GB or even more is not a bad idea if you are unsure just how much you will need."

Again, the clear implication that whilst 32GB is acceptable, they are cautioning that unless you already know your requirements, then 64GB would be a good idea.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Threadripper 2970WX 3 GHz 24-Core Processor $1249.49 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler Enermax - LIQTECH TR4 II 360 102.17 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler $159.99 @ Newegg
Motherboard Gigabyte - X399 AORUS XTREME EATX TR4 Motherboard $428.99 @ Amazon
Memory Corsair - Vengeance LPX 64 GB (8 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $419.99 @ Newegg
Storage Samsung - 970 Evo Plus 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $127.99 @ Amazon
Storage Intel - 660p Series 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $109.89 @ OutletPC
Storage Toshiba - X300 4 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $107.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card Gigabyte - GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB WINDFORCE Video Card $498.99 @ SuperBiiz
Case [be quiet! - DARK BASE PRO 900 SILVER rev. 2 ATX Full Tower Case](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/fLqhP6/be-quiet-dark-base-pro-900-silver-rev-2-atx-full-tower-case-bgw16)
Power Supply Phanteks - Revolt Pro 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply $129.99 @ Newegg
Other Gigabyte - GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB WINDFORCE Video Card $498.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $3981.19
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-03-29 07:28 EDT-0400
  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks for all the comments. That really helps out. Is there any reason you wouldn't go ahead and run the two GPUs in SLI/NVlink?

  • 3 months ago
  • 2 points

No issue with SLI or NVLink, just that Nvidia hasn't included such support for the RTX 2070's, only the 2080's & above for the RTX series. Yet in the V-Ray benchmark tests the twin 2080's were performing worse than the dual RTX 2070's.

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

i though they didn't support SLI for the RTX 2060, but they did for the RTX 2070???

wait no you just contradicted yourself D:

(also why hasn't anyone mentioned the Quadro RTX series workstation GPUs they sound better suited for this role )

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