Description

This build was completed in June actually and I totally forgot to post it here until today. I post some details in Chiphell, though you may need to use Google translate to read it. (https://www.chiphell.com/thread-1869121-1-1.html)

Note: all the CPU temperature below will be the Tdie temp.

About CPU:

2700x is a bit hot in this case unless you use it with default core speed, which is 3.7G all core without PBO. I use a graphite version copper C7 plus a 2.5W A9x14 from noctua. The retail A9x14 has the maxium speed of 2100prm(or2200 I can't remember) while the 2.5W version only from L9i or L9a can work at 2500rpm. So now the fan speed is comparable to stock C7 fan, and much quieter. I bought the Cu C7 together with non-retail A9x14 from taobao in May and the seller has already painted it with graphite as I wish.

BTW, 92mm AIO cannot be installed if you use 1080Ti FTW3. I think 92mm AIO can only be used when the video card is not that high(long) as a FTW3.

About GPU:

The EVGA 1080ti FTW3 is actually longer than the recommended GPU length, but still can be fit in the case. To make the installation easier, I have to remove the screws on the riser and plug the card into the PCI connector first.

About Case fan:

I installed a A9 (25mm) at the bottom of the PSU and used a LNA cable to minimize its sound. It won't help too much on CPU temp but help a bit on the video card side(FTW3 is 302mm long!). I also bought two Asaka 80x80x10mm fans, but I failed to install these two. I know some people successfully installed them to the top and bottom of the mobo, but when I do this, I found it is so difficult to put them into the correct location steadily. So I give it up....

About SSDs:

I installed one 2TB SATA SSD in the front as a storage disk for personal stuff, one 512G 970Pro for OS and one 512G 970Evo for games. The temperature result is telling me that 970evo is hotter than 970pro so it is recommended to install the 970 evo to the front M.2 slot. The rear M.2 slot can be cooled down by a 1mm thermal pad and several 1mm copper plate so that the M.2 controller and memory can touch the case skeleton to maintain an acceptable temperature. Without any cooling methods, rear M.2(970evo) can be as hot as 110 ℃ under benchmark.

About mobo and memory:

Currently I'm using Gskill 3200CL14 on my x470-i. It is a Samsung Bdie memory listed on mobo's QVL and works fine at DOCP. Before that, I bought a Gskill 3600CL17 which is not on the QVL, and it coundn't reach its rated speed 3600CL17. Actually, it couldn't reach any better than 3200CL18 before I returned it to Amazon. But the memory sticks rated at 3200CL14 works well at 3200CL14. So now I learned to buy memory sticks on the QVL to avoid this situation....

About PSU cables:

It is highly recommended to get some custom cables rather than the official cable. Original stock cable is extreamly hard: not only the cable but also the plug. I bought these cables from Taobao in May together with the copper C7. You can easily find the cable length on the internet. The space below the PSU is so small that you won't want to waste time on cable management. Trust me.

Temperature:

I didn't want to run FPU tests in AIDA64 since I know it is an unpractical test and making no sense to do heavy works like that in a ITX case. I plotted some simple graphs shown together with photos based on the Witcher 3, GTAol and Cinebench15 to have an idea about the temperature of 2700x and C7.

Room temperature is 23 degree.

Recently I change the BIOS setting and the CPU is working at 3.9G@1.225V so that CPU temp in game varies between 65℃ to 75℃ as you can see from graphs. The 2700x can work at 4G@1.275V and pass one CR15 as it is reaching 100 degree, and in some heavy CPU load game like battlefield 5 beta it may still stop responding. I also tried 4G@1.25V and it won't pass one single CR15. The computer won't boot with any voltage lower than 1.25V as it has been limited by the cooler. PBO also works well and 2700x automatically boosts to 4.2G for a few seconds and work constantly at 3.8-3.9G depends onload. I upload the temp performance after each CR15 cycle.

CR15 1Cycle 80degree

CR15 2Cycle 83degree

CR15 3Cycle 85degree

CR15 4Cycle 87degree

CR15 5Cycle 90degree

CR15 6Cycle 93degree

In practice, CPU will not have this high stress so I'm not really concern about its temp and seems like this voltage is steady enough for Cu C7 wind cooling.

Meanwhile, the CPU fan is pretty noisy if the default fan setting is used in BIOS. I use a pretty flat curve when temp is below 65 and speed starts to rise after 65. Make sure you find a good curve slope so that you won't hear the noisy fan every time you open Chrome.

GPU temperature is really good. With the original thermal compound, maximum ingame temperature is 78℃, which is acceptable.

Shadow of Tomb Raider: CPU is running at 65℃ most of time , occasionally jump to 75℃. GPU is running at 73-75 constantly.

Performance:

I only run the TimeSpy twice to test the performance of the riser. The PCIe extension cable almost has no effect to benchmark results. What affect score more significantly is GPU is working at PCIex8 due to a second M.2 SSD. Graphic score was about 10500 before a second M.2 was installed and now dropped to ~9950.

2700x also works normal and passed the timespy extreme stress test, which will loop the bechmark for 30 times. Its CR15 score was 1753 at 3.9GHz.

Comments

  • 10 months ago
  • 21 points

SFF + Clean Setup + Cat = Feature recipe

  • 10 months ago
  • 1 point

You called it

  • 10 months ago
  • 6 points

Really, the cat called it.

The face screams "You will feature me...or else."

  • 10 months ago
  • 2 points

How can you not feature Mr. Feather-Duster-Tail? <3

  • 10 months ago
  • 2 points

Yeet

  • 10 months ago
  • 13 points

10/10 Great cat

  • 10 months ago
  • 11 points

This cat is CUTEEE! +1

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  • 10 months ago
  • 2 points

Whats wrong with AMD? They're dominating the budget and mid-range CPU market currently!

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  • 10 months ago
  • 2 points

Ok I see what you mean. I also apologize if I came down condescending.

  • 9 months ago
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Please keep feedback polite and constructive.

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  • 9 months ago
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Please keep feedback polite and constructive.

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  • 9 months ago
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Comments like this will not be tolerated on our site.

  • 10 months ago
  • 8 points

do you give the cat loops

  • 10 months ago
  • 6 points

lööps bröther

  • 10 months ago
  • 7 points

+1 for the cat!

  • 10 months ago
  • 6 points

+1 for the cat. Just look at that fluff.

  • 10 months ago
  • 5 points

Nice build! What kind of cat :D

  • 10 months ago
  • 4 points

She's a 8 month old ragdoll lol.

  • 10 months ago
  • 2 points

She is absolutely adorable.

  • 10 months ago
  • 5 points

+5 for the adorable cat.

  • 10 months ago
  • 4 points

Nice build, but what kind of performance are you getting on that cat?

  • 10 months ago
  • 3 points

Wow it's a life changer lol.

  • 10 months ago
  • 4 points

i see someone is using The Verge's paste application technique lmao. Just playing. Killer build!!

  • 10 months ago
  • 3 points

link for that wallpaper? :D

  • 10 months ago
  • 1 point

Search for the author 'WLOP'. I'm using wallpaper engine so you can find from steam workshop.

  • 10 months ago
  • 1 point

oh ok thanks! :D

  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

looks cool

  • 10 months ago
  • 3 points

The first Picture melted my heart! Your cat is soooo cute :D

  • 10 months ago
  • 3 points

What the actual **** this is amazing!!! and your cat is cute +1

  • 10 months ago
  • 2 points

wow. this definitely deserved a feature! also, your cat is adorable. does it sit on your keyboard a lot?

  • 10 months ago
  • 2 points

No I don't allow her to get on my desk. Except for the photo moment. lol

  • 10 months ago
  • 2 points

smart move. i bet it would be a pain to get all that cat hair out of that keyboard ;)

  • 10 months ago
  • 2 points

The winner is the cat.

  • 10 months ago
  • 2 points

Cute Cat :) !

  • 10 months ago
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I clicked on this because of the cat, tbh. Awesome build though

  • 10 months ago
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What kind of cat is that? Great build btw.

  • 10 months ago
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She's a Ragdoll. Only 8 months old when I took that photo.

  • 10 months ago
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c a t t o

  • 7 months ago
  • 2 points

11/10 pet the cat for me <3

  • 10 months ago
  • 1 point

Looks good +1

  • 10 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks!

  • 10 months ago
  • 1 point

Huh, so the 2700X even under PBO works great with the C7 Cu in such a cramped case!

  • 10 months ago
  • 1 point

Yeah in Battlefield 5 beta, with PBO on 2700x may work at 3.8GHz or even 3.75GHz during 100% CPU usage at loading. Temp is usually 80+.

  • 10 months ago
  • 3 points

Had to reply again because I wish I could +1 again for the cat.

  • 10 months ago
  • 1 point

Amazing build! Dan cases is one of my favorite +1

  • 10 months ago
  • 2 points

Just updated the desktop with my cat XD

  • 10 months ago
  • 3 points

Bonus points for the cat

  • 10 months ago
  • 1 point

This is a great build! Thanks for sharing!

  • 10 months ago
  • 1 point

I really like your build

  • 10 months ago
  • 1 point

Hello our Dan-brother! Great job- from our Dan-community!

  • 10 months ago
  • 2 points

Thanks. I got a lot of helps from the community so it's time to post my experience and help others!

  • 10 months ago
  • 1 point

Check mine also with that Case!

  • 10 months ago
  • 1 point

I want a Dan case too, but in the future build. I got the same monitor too! How do you like it so far?

  • 10 months ago
  • 1 point

It's amazing. I like the 144hz and gsync part so that I won't see any screen tearing and delay. The only drawback is the leaking light issue from IPS panel , which is very common to see.

  • 10 months ago
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You know that it can overclock to 165hz.

  • 10 months ago
  • 1 point

Yeah but not really necessary. No video card can even run a AAA game at 144hz.

  • 10 months ago
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I had no idea that you could fit a 1080ti into a case that small! +1

  • 10 months ago
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So small with such power. Glad to see someone breaking the temperature glass ceiling and using their CPU at +80C without issue.

Thumbs up and congrats on the featured spot.

  • 10 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks! I have been using laptops for years and CPU always gets very hot like 85-95. So I don't really worry about 2700x works at ~80 in games lol.

  • 10 months ago
  • 1 point

Good deal. Yeah if the operational temp range is good..... it's still good! Funny when someone asks if you're concerned about a particular temperature. Nope not concerned. Already tested.

Good job.

  • 10 months ago
  • 1 point

Nice build! Is it as portable as it looks? Is it very noisy?

Also, I like your desktop background. I use pictures from wlop too.

  • 10 months ago
  • 2 points

You can easily put it in a carry on baggage together with a 15" portable screen. Not very noisy at idle. Slightly noisy when gaming but that's the price for putting an ITX case on the desk.

  • 10 months ago
  • 1 point

Looks like a fancy toaster, kind of :D A powerful one though

  • 10 months ago
  • 1 point

lmao when i first looked at this i thought it had an amd a4 paired with a gtx 1080 ti. its a good build

  • 10 months ago
  • 1 point

Did the cat come with the case when you bought it?

  • 10 months ago
  • 1 point

Yep only if you buy the season pass XD

  • 10 months ago
  • 1 point

Gotta invest some money then I guess

  • 10 months ago
  • 1 point

Mousepad?

  • 10 months ago
  • 1 point

fate/stay night

  • 4 months ago
  • 0 points

battle cats had a crossover for that lol

  • 10 months ago
  • 1 point

Everything looks great, its cool seeing these smaller PCs. But it looks like it runs super hot, like >80C in games, isnt that a concern for you? even my 8700k doesnt get that hot

  • 10 months ago
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CPU in those graph was running at 3.9G -0.1V. Now I change the voltage to fixed 1.225V so now in the Shadow of Tomb raider, it usually works at 65 degree, and occasionally goes to 75. Even it goes to 80 degree I'm still not really worried about it as long as it doesn't reach 95.

  • 10 months ago
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I just updated the graphs with my latest bios setting. Now temp are all below 80 degree.

  • 10 months ago
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sounds good. yeah i know 80 is safe, its just kinda the first checkpoint of "you-should-be-worried-temps". cause 85C is like ok something's running way too hot or fans arent functioning how they should be and 90 is rethink the game plan. i like my temps nice and cool 60-75C

  • 10 months ago
  • 1 point

Great build! Cute cat, haven't seen a G9X MW3 edition in a minute! +1

  • 10 months ago
  • 1 point

Wow I love its so simple and clean yet powerful.

  • 10 months ago
  • 1 point

Your cat looks like a Porg XD

  • 10 months ago
  • 1 point

First of all great build, you got a plus one from me, however, I did have one question: is your GPU being bottlenecked? The 1080 ti is a very powerful card and the 2700x is about 9 percent worse than the 8700k or the 8086k which is 10 percent worse (which are chips that will not bottleneck it). Now don't get me wrong, the Ryzen 7 2700x is a great chip but there are more powerful cards that won't bottleneck the GPU with only little overclocking. Anyway, my question is once again is, is the GPU getting bottlenecked. Great build!

  • 10 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks for your reply! I always believe investing on AMD is investing the future. AMD brings 8 cores to the desktop (bulldozer failed :(. and gaming company starts to develop games using all 8 cores(bf5 beta can use all 8 cores to 100%). So maybe I will invest on intel only when they stop the core wars, otherwise a 6 core i7 from this year will become a 6 core i5 next year. If after 9900k Intel can get something on 10nm CPU with SMT and don't use thermal paste, I will definitely buy it again. Now I just want to help AMD so that Intel could do better next time.

  • 10 months ago
  • 1 point

Oh forget to say... I know fps on 2700x could be a little lower than a intel CPU, but personally... on a 2K gsync monitor, fps drops to 80 from 90, or drops to 70 from 80 doesn't really make a difference. If a game fps is acceptable on AMD, then I won't tell the difference from a intel platform. If a game fps on AMD is not acceptable like 30 fps, then intel won't be a lot better (maybe 33fps?)

  • 10 months ago
  • 1 point

I have used a Evga 1080ti SC2 with an intel i5-8400 and it didn't bottleneck!! No way will a Ryzen 2700X bottleneck that GPU unles syou're running very low resolution at insane frame rates.

No mid-tier current gen CPU (Ryzen 2600>, Intel i5-8400>) will bottleneck a GTX 1080Ti in normal gaming use. A few VERY CPU heavy titles excepted.

  • 10 months ago
  • 1 point

not a fan of how you applied that thermal paste i must say. beautiful cat though. Decent choice in components. Awesome cable management. Especially considering how difficult it must be in a small form factor. All in all, great. The thermal paste is my only complaint. Other than putting many spots of it on the CPU, there is that one big blob which would be fine in the center but its all the way over by the edge. Please tell me that bit of paste did not leak out over the side of the CPU when you pressed the heatsink on top of it. I wouldnt want you to fry your components because of it. I am just concerned. 9/10

  • 10 months ago
  • 1 point

That was an accident lol. And that thermal paste is not even Kryonaut since I couldn't find it anywhere. So I used NTH1 first and that's what you see in that pic. Later on I found my Kryonaut paste. It became my cat's new toy under the coach lol.

  • 10 months ago
  • 1 point

Is that cooler better?

  • 10 months ago
  • 1 point

Very nice build.

But to be honest, I came for the cat. ;)

  • 10 months ago
  • 1 point

+.1 for the cat :v those cables just made it more cramped otherwise nice build.

  • 10 months ago
  • 1 point

The computer and all is great, looks great and all. But i want to know more about the cat

  • 9 months ago
  • 1 point

Hey the build looks great! I was in the process of compiling a extremely similar dan case build like yours. Could you maybe explain what you mean by connecting the ssd to the case with pads and copper plates (?). How would that look? With that motherboard, you said one ssd is on the rear and one is on the front. Is that like how one slot is on one side and the other is on the other side?

Also would you recommend if its maybe better to just get 1 tb ssd instead of two maybe? Any help would be greatly appreciated, I'm still waiting for my case to be delivered so I can order the rest of the parts. Cheers

  • 9 months ago
  • 2 points

Hi,

The x470-i mobo has two M.2 slots. The front slot has a metal cooler while the other one is in the back with nothing covered. So if you leave your rear ssd uncovered, it will could reach 110 degree in benchmarks since it doesn't come into contact with anything (there is a 1~2mm gap between M.2 and PCIe cable).

It's like: Case Skeleton -- PCIe Cable -- Rear M.2 -- mobo PCB

So what I did first is to put a 1mm thick thermal pad on the top of M.2 including both ssd memory and ssd controller. Then you can see the M.2 memory can get into contact with the PCIe cable and the cable is pushed to the case skeleton (metal that support your mobo.) like a sandwich (M.2 memory - thermal pad - cable - case skeleton).

Then you will find out that the rear M.2 is not parallel to the mobo. It has a small angle so that when the M.2 memory can keep contact with the cable and case skeleton, the M.2 controller still has a gap to that cable. Therefore, I put a 1mm copper plate on the top of that thermal pad, and now both the controller and memory can come into contact with the case skeleton to cool themselves down.

You may need to look at the photo I uploaded together with words above to imagine what I am saying.

And yes if you use only one M.2 slot instead of two then that's great. Rear M.2 will be always hotter than the one in the front. I was intended to buy a 1TB 970 pro to avoid the rear M.2 but the price at that time was not ideal so I bought two 512GB M.2 SSD.

  • 9 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks so much for the help/reply !

  • 9 months ago
  • 1 point

I am trying to get the parts for I very similar build. I have some questions for you, as someone who has used the DAN case.

Despite it being so small and easily portable, does it disappoint you that most parts of the PC cannot be seen? I am looking into RGB CPU Cooler, RAM, and Motherboard, and I am afraid that the beauty of these parts will not be on display

Is it possible to use an all-in-one water cooler in this case, specifically the Cooler Master MasterLiquid ML120L RGB? I have never built a PC, and as I understand setting up water-cooling is already difficult enough.

  • 9 months ago
  • 1 point

Hi,

RGB is not recommended to this case unless you buy a transparent side panel. I turn off all the rgb lights since I personally don't like any rgb pollution. But with the original side panel, you can still see the rgb color for rams.

Dan case web has some 120aio recommendation. It has sone limits, especially the GPU length must be very very small, which means you won't be able to get a powerful gpu.

  • 9 months ago
  • 1 point

came for the cat stayed for the nice build

  • 9 months ago
  • 1 point

i love this build, maybe you could of gone with the r7 1700 and saved alot on TDP and would be able to hit the CPU harder and longer due to its lower TDP, my 1700 is oc'd to 4.0ghz at 1.37v which i know is alot, (because im still learning about Ryzen's tech and nature) but still the TDP is like 65w vs 105w thats alot of power savings and alot of less heat thus, making your Cpu cooler last longer because it wont have to run near at 100%. just a suggestion. overall great build bro!

  • 9 months ago
  • 1 point

TDP is only at their default frequency. 65W TDP =3.0GHz on 1600 105W TDP =3.7GHz on 2700x.

And if you open HWinfo64 to see the total CPU package power, it is definitely higher than 65W at 4G. My CPU at 3.9G~4G has about 140W~150W total power consumption. I believe on 1600 if you OC to 4G then its actual power consumption will be around 150W as well.

  • 9 months ago
  • 1 point

mine pulls almost no more then 100w

  • 9 months ago
  • 1 point

Floofer cat AND nice build +1

  • 9 months ago
  • 1 point

I got the same monitor, do you happen to have like a gap between the actual screen and the bottom bezel (frame)?

  • 9 months ago
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No, but I occasionally had a weird problem. The monitor will move a couple columns of pixels from the middle of the screen to the left edge of the screen. The problem disappeared after a monitor restart or system restart or resolution change. Many ppl say it is because of Gsync.

  • 7 months ago
  • 1 point

Cutest cat i ever seen, 10/10 build.

  • 7 months ago
  • 1 point

Hi Great build I am using the same CPU motherboard and ram. Unable to get pc to power on orange flashing light on motherboard showing standby power but nothing else. No case fans spinning up nothing. I was told by Asus tech support that the ram is not supported and that is why nothing is happening. Using F4-3200c14d-32gtzr. They sent me a list of tested ram and it is not on their list. I also checked Gskill site and they also do not list this ram as supported for the x470-i motherboard, but Pc part picker says it is compatible and you built with it. Going crazy trying to figure out if I should just send ram back and get something off there list or if this is really some other problem. 1st time building a pc. The case is H200i NZXT. Does anyone have any thoughts on what might be wrong could it really be the ram is not compatible. Tried to do research that last 3 days and coming up with nothing. Hope someone with more experience than I might be able to help or point me in the right direction. I have taken everything out of the case rebuilt it outside the case still nothing just orange flashing light after Asus told me the ram was not compatible I reassembled everything back into the case tried one last time after seeing that it worked for you and same result. Would bad ram cause nothing to power on at all just thinking fans or something would come on.

  • 6 months ago
  • 1 point

Sorry I just see your reply today. Hope your problem has been resolved so far. I think you can try to lower the ram frequency to 2400 and see if your computer will boot up. RYZEN is very terrible at RAM OC compared to Intel.

  • 6 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks. I think it was the motherboard bios not being updated and therefore not booting because it didn't support the RYZEN Cpu. Had to send the motherboard back to Asus for then to update the bios. but had to send the ram back to Newegg as my return window was almost over and couldn't take the chance it was the ram. Waiting for the return to hit and then might just reorder it again and try hope it will boot after the bios update. Had thought this motherboard supported the 2700x out of the box but apparently only with a recent bios update is it supported and since I didn't have an older CPU I was not able to update it. So hoping it will all work when I get it all put back together. Thanks for the help.

  • 6 months ago
  • 1 point

Hi were you able to have your system run with the ram at its full 3200 or did you have to lower yours also? Just asking because we are using a lot of the same components

  • 6 months ago
  • 1 point

I can let it run at full 3200 14-14-14-34. Just DOCP without any other adjustments to ram detail settings.

  • 6 months ago
  • 1 point

lets go baby wooooo! UwU cat

  • 5 months ago
  • 1 point

Can you please tell me how the ram works? I looked at Asus qvl list and the ram isn't there so I don't know what mobo to buy...thx.

  • 5 months ago
  • 1 point

Hi I just found there was a mistake in my spec list. I chose the 32GB(16x2) memory kit instead of my real 16GB(8GBx2) memory kit. It should be on the qvl so DOCP should be just fine. Sorry for any misguide.

  • 5 months ago
  • 1 point

Why spend extra money for RBG ram in a closed case?

  • 5 months ago
  • 1 point

It is the only ram on the qvl that can run at 3200CL14.

  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

Mao!!

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Hi, I am planning on a Dan Case v4 build soon. Do you think the 2700x is a viable choice? My options are the newer 92mm Asetek 645LT, Black Ridge (based off Dan's CPU cooler), or something like this maybe. I appreciate any input you give. Thanks!

This is the build: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LrGCYT

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  • 9 months ago
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That is because you are using a 160mm CPU cooler and I'm using a 32mm CPU cooler. Turn on the PBO means it will downclock to 3.7GHz in CR15 .

L9a has only 65W recommended TDP while the Cu C7 has 105W recommended TDP. And the stock fan from C7 has max of 2500rpm. So I switched it to a notcua fan with same speed to minimize blowing air lost and noise.

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  • 9 months ago
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Yeah I tried use stock settings and mentioned that in the article. It will boost to 4.2GHz for a while then drop down and work constantly at 3.8GHz constantly.

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  • 10 months ago
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Thanks!

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  • 9 months ago
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Usually my CPU will crash around 95 or higher. I got several CR15 loop tests and CPU reached 93 degree(tdie) but still alive. In games I only crashed a few times in BF5 beta when CPU usage is about 100% constantly and temp is about 93-95 degree. I have to let it run at 3.8G 1.15V for BF5. And for benchmarks I only ran CR15 for stress test because FPU test in AIDA64 is wayyyyy to much to this itx and to Ryzen. Many ppl report FPU test will crash the OS in a few second even temp is around 80.